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Smee



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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject:  

More good thinking Luris :D

But I think you're right to question if it's possible. :?

I'm not sure how I could explain him knowing of the existence of ultraviolet.

Hmmm... infa-red could be explained by research into what caused the heat of sunlight, but I don't know enough about ultraviolet to explain it in a world with only very basic science. :?
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject:  

As i see it, infa-red and ultraviolet would have much the same effect. Infa-red is more visable from the source though.

If Gorin has mastered light, he may have been able to fine tune infa-red into an unknown light(ultraviolet). There doesnt have to be much science involved. I'll try to explain.

If a person looks at a white light through green glass, they would see a green light. The same goes for all the other colors. The glass acts as a filter. Understanding this alone, couldn't one simply filter out unwanted colors?

This would only be possible if Gorin could cast different colors of light. And, to learn how to fine tune the filters, would require some time, along with much trial and error. But i'm sure he didn't get the title of master for nothing.

And if that's not possible, he could just stand a little closer to his dummy illusion to compensate for the more visable shield of light. He should still have a very good defense, which should allow him ample time to analize the arena, observe his opponents tactics, and prepare a more effective attack.
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject:  

But in that case, is his able to utilise the whole spectrum, or just visible light? Do we know this Smee?

Afterall, Sleen isn't the master of darkness, she just utilises it. She must have another form of magic that is unknown. Focusing too much on over-coming the darkness could well be our downfall.
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject:  

lordofthenight wrote: Focusing too much on over-coming the darkness could well be our downfall.
This brings up a good point, but she relies on the darkness to provide a mask for her attack. The darkness could be a part of the attack, or possably used just for the element of suprise. Either way, i think both have been covered.

For the attack, if its not related to darkness, still needs to strike an area to pose any idmediate threat to Gorin. Protection from an area attack not related to darkness is an element that still needs to be covered. I think a general form of protection should be suitable, because we don't know the other form of magic, if she has one.
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject:  

But it could as easily be a distraction, or a way of trying to stop her next opponaunt knowning what she is up to.
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject:  

I agree.

As the arena grows darker, her opponent focuses on the darkness, distracting them, and it also gives her the element of suprise.

If Gorin prepares for the darkness ahead of time, as the darkness overcomes the arena, he can focus on what may come, and not be focusing on the darkness

and i dont think we should worry about her next opponent, Gorin will be her last opponent.
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject:  

Excellent guys :D
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject:  

I still think we should try to flood the stadium with light rather than be on the defensive.
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject:  

that is also a good way to go.

As important as defense is, offense is equally important.

If we go with this tactic, how would it be done? Gorin could flood the arena right from the start, or he could wait, until the arena is lit as though its a bright night.

i think if Gorin were to flood the arena with light after its grown darker, his flood(im thinking flash flood) may be more effective.

this all depends on which opponent is stronger, but if Sleen utilizes the darkness and hasnt mastered it, i believe Gorin would have the upper hand.
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject:  

Something just occurred to me. I think we're missing the obvious.

Unless I'm mis-remembering, Sleen's opponents were knocked unconscious, not killed. They're out of the competition now.

How about we just ask them what happened? Pay for the information, offer them a share of the prize, should we win. I'm sure we can pick up some more useful information that way.

What'd'ya think, guys?
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject:  

I'm sure Tokes or one of Gorin's spy can hunt them out - whether they'll tell us anything I don't know. But great idea DB - well spotted :D
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject:  

*slips into Gorin Command Central and tiptoes to his seat, hoping Smee hasn't noticed he was missing*

Oh, um, hi! *grins sheepishly* Did I miss anything?

I like the ideas so far for dealing with Sleen (especially interrogating her previous victims). One more suggestion. I assume it's an open-air arena. Immediately at the beginning of the battle, fly up out of the blackness. Ideally, do this in addition to the light and fake-Gorin spells.
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject:  

*turns around again, after spending most of 2006 facing the other way fascinated with something shiny.*

Excellent points Powers :D

It is open-air, but there is the shield that protects the audience that acts as a ceiling to 'flying'. Gorin can't fly, but like with his entrance to the city, and with the jungle illusion, he can create an illusion that pushes him up higher.

Go Team :D
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:46 pm    Post subject:  

Very nice idea!
Although how about multiple illusions of him in the air as to confuse the opponent?
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject:  

Great - a sparta adding in too :D

Multiple illusions could work if she discovers the one - but until then we want her to conveniently forget we can do that.
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject:  

i agree with Smee, multiple illusions is good, but after she finds out that Gorin is using an illusion to misplace him.

her attack under darkness may be a direct attack, but if she see's multiples of Gorin, she may opt to use an area attack, which could effect the outcome of the matchup.
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