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Yes, the options are a little messier than usual this time. But that's OK, they can be combined in the next chapter. For example, if the vote is to go back to the Zigots and ask for a job, there's no reason why she couldn't ask them about libraries as well at some point.
Really the vote is about Pilla's goal. If the vote is to go to a library, she'll may have to ask someone on the street for help, she may even have to ask the Zigots for help, but her focus will be on finding a place of learning, not, for example, staying with the Zigots or getting something to eat.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Muaddib wrote: | LOL, I just realized it myself.
It looks alright on first glance because its a colloquialism. For example, Merry Christmas isn't technically correct. It should be "Have a merry Christmas", but since people like to condense language as much as they can,(note SMS language), the shorter version became widely used. |
dnt b slly ddib no1 cndnsz ther lngge mch
and at the risk of loosing too many precious fables (and, of coarse, make it easier for people to read and understanbd without having to mentally fill in the blanks and wonder what that word was that they didnt quite get but it could be this or this and either would sort offit but neither would fit perfectly, then again does sax's ramblings ever make perfect sense?) i will continue the rest of this post in full and unabridged form.
i voted for going back to the zigots, its the strongest and most likely point of information for pilla which is a logical choice and she feels connected slightly too them because she feels that they are more her kind then any other form currently around and because they are zigots they would have a wealth of well recorded information and it would not be possible for them to lie or decieve her in any way, so really that choice appeals to both her sides AND can take the story in the most creative and all-decision-encompassing route where she can solve all her problems directly through contact with them.
i mean seriously with that much going for it and with no percievable unfortunate occurence being involved with this option it is by far the most apropriate choice for pilla to make.
i hope this makes me lots of fables
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Although the library would be a comfortable place for her to go, the street may offer more than merchants. What's wrong with the unexpected?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | it would not be possible for them to lie or decieve her in any way |
What are you talking about? Anybody could lie or decieve her. Peran already has. It is not likely, but the merchants could have easily said that they knew where the city was and then just dump her some place random saying it was said city for exhorberant amounts of money paid by another. This is just a hypothetical example.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Peran could lie because he 's a Goatfoot. The Zigots don't understand lying - it's not logical to say something contrary to fact. That's why Pilla was so easy for Peran to deceive; she wasn't used to that. So no, I don't think the merchants could have dropped her off in another town and told her it was the one she wanted.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah what she said, thanks MG
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Poll's closed. By a hair, the vote was to look for a university or library.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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I was assuming a lot with my hypothetical example. I guess I did not consider the fact that Zigoz do not understand the concept of lying. Maybe that is one aspect of the animal world they do not like.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| Just a slight correction: I wouldn't say that the Zigots don't understand the concept of lying. Intellectually, they have models for people's (and animals') beliefs, intentions, and actions, and these models take into account how someone could take action to make someone else believe something that isn't true. But they would see that as interfering with the smooth functioning of society, so it's something very rare among the Zigots.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the correction, Key, I think there was some confusion about what the Zigots' knowledge of the concept. So they know about lying, yet they consider it something that only adds chaos in their orderly world.
I guess that makes sense since they're a machine world. If things are not organized, I can see them going crazy like their wires have gone haywire. I guess it would be safe to say they dislike confusion. Someone like Pilla is one of those puzzles that ruined their balance society.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| so they dont usually lie thats good, plus what would be the point of the zigots lying to Pilla they wouldnt have gained anything by it]
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if they know anything about white lies?
| Quote: | | what would be the point of the zigots lying to Pilla they wouldnt have gained anything by it |
Are you referring to the merchants? If so, they probably don't need to lie to her. Even if they heard the rumors about her, they would probably just be relieved that she is leaving Zigoz. They are still Zigots, so they would want the society to remain on the same smooth path it should be on.
I don't think we will ever know the merchants' true intentions. You probably are right that they just did it out of kindness. I only saying that their intentions could be looked at deeper perspective. And that would just make the whole story more complicated. I consider this discussion done.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| Hey Rave, what's the link for this Nano Wrimo thing?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| yeah i;ve been wondering about that myself
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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You both interested? Here.
Should take you to the home page. The forums are open year-round, but they get really busy in November when the competition begins.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Nah its too late. November 2006, I'll probably be in America or on my way to Kashmir and Tibet.
Wish I'd done it in 2005 though...
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Let me just tell you that, I thought I couldn't do it because I was a first semester senior in high school. And you would know that is where time gets really crunched. Somehow I got through it and finished an application that was due the 1st of December. You really learn about time management when doing Nano Wrimo. For Nano Wrimo, you can be anywhere. All you need is a computer and motivation.
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Now I really really wish I'd known about it earlier...
Incidentally have you heard from any colleges?
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I didn't apply ED or EA to anywhere, so I have to wait until April till I hear from any of them. I am just happy I have all my apps done. Of course I am a bit pissed at Carnegie Mellon and Mount Holyoke for losing some of my documents, but other than that, I just need to survive the rest of the school year.
How about you? I remember earlier, you were asking for an essay topic for the Stanford app.
Don't say you can't do it now. You have until November, and that is like 8 months from now. You can change your mind within that time.
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Well, I didn't apply ED or EA either. Carnegie recieved all of my stuff, Cornell and Brown have recieved all my stuff(I think) and Stanford hasn't even confirmed my application. I dunno what's wrong with them. Actually it turns out pretty good, I have no chance in Stanford whatsoever( my mates all got rejected), so if they don't confirm my apps by April I can ask for a refund.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Chapter 6 posted. Locking chapter 5.
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| What do you do? |
| Look for a Scarpi library or university |
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| Approach one of the food-vendors and ask to work for food |
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| Go back to the Zigot merchants and ask for a job |
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| Ask someone on the street if there's someone like you |
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| Watch the Scarpi beggars to see if you can get a clue how to survive |
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| Who Voted: Chinaren, ethereal_fauna, jnmrcs, LordoftheNight, Mother Goose, Muaddib, Ravenwing, Shady Stoat, Smee |
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