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Lords and Ladies. General discussion thread. Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next   (currently a favorite of )    Storygames Home -> -> Lords and Ladies View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Lords and Ladies. General discussion thread. Last edited by Chinaren on Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:14 am; edited 13 times in total Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:26 pm    Post subject: Start carefully and slowly heading for the North Path while you wait for your scouts to come back. Then act on their verdict. _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author Jack_D.Mented Respected Citizen Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 958 Location: Hiding out in the woods of Washington Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Coolness. I'd say go to the north. The dandy's just an idiot. _________________ Eadgar's Saga Chapter 2 POLL Abattoir Chapter 2! Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Yep North Path's looking good, it shouldn't delay him long enough for a full scale coup to occur. Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: this is begining to look unanimous Better a challenge in court that you know about than an unknown number of ambushers in the woods, take the north path. Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: Quote: “Who are they Hark, how many and are they friendly?” Byrold squinted at the tree line near the horizon. “The fact that they didn't wish to show themselves is indicative in itself sire. I would recommend we take the North road, around the trees.” He doesn't get an answer to how many - all that was reported was 'movement ahead'. Doesn't give any indication of numbers. For all we know it's an old hermit with a lame dog. On the otherhand - back at court - people really don't like being without a king. If his step-mum steps forward with an option, then they'll fall over themselves to get the whole process out the way and back to business. We can't delay - get through the trees and move it. Scouts in the furthest ring around us, then the light cavalry, and then the heavy. Unless it's pikemen in the woods (unlikely, pikes are hardly handy amongst trees) then cavalry will still have the height advantage of horse. They'd have to be heavily outnumbered. Happy Playing _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Last edited by Smee on Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:51 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author Jack_D.Mented Respected Citizen Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 958 Location: Hiding out in the woods of Washington Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:40 am    Post subject: Even if there is a coup, can't he just kill the step mom and the infant? _________________ Eadgar's Saga Chapter 2 POLL Abattoir Chapter 2! Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: So kind eh? "Yeah, I'm supposed to treat you like you're my mum and I've known the kid from his birth but what the hell, I'll kill you anyway!" I can see that happening. Really, I can. _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Well...it is an ancient world, he hasn't really known the child as he'ds been away studying for a while and his step mum might hate him. Still I'd have to agree with Whitey, I doubt he'd go and kill them both (he sounds too nice a person) - although he may have them locked up for treason if they plot a cou. Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: It's only treason if he's the king _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: That's a very good point...although as the past King has requested he be made King then he could claim that he is temporarily acting King of his country until he is officially made King. Or he could claim that as they new he was to be made King and they tried to stop that - that they were therefore hindering his father's wishes, so were actually committing treason against his father (who it could also be argued is in theory acting King until his son takes over) disobeying his orders. Either way I'm sure that if he was made King he could get the finest lawyers of the land onto the case in question and somehow procure a charge of treason . On second thoughts perhaps banishing them or killing them would just be a lot simpler . Back to top Author Jack_D.Mented Respected Citizen Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 958 Location: Hiding out in the woods of Washington Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Yes... KILL KILL KILL KILL!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!! Anyways... that's how it's been done throughout history. At least he's not as mean as Alexander the Great's mother... Who roasted the only other heir to the country alive and ate him to perserve her son's claim to the throne. But yeah... people ... fall off the map all the time. _________________ Eadgar's Saga Chapter 2 POLL Abattoir Chapter 2! Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:20 pm    Post subject: Quote: That's a very good point...although as the past King has requested he be made King then he could claim that he is temporarily acting King of his country until he is officially made King. I do believe Marcus Aralias said that Maximus should be Caesar - didn't work out to plan there. Basically, if he's there, declaring, they will believe him and it'll be fine (apart from possible assassins and other fun). If he's not, he will likely lose his throne. His step-brother is the son of the current Queen afterall. Not an insignificant claim. With his step-mum, the current Queen, acting as Regent until his step-brother comes of age. That needs to be stopped, and the easiest way is by being there on time. _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Quote: Basically, if he's there, declaring, they will believe him and it'll be fine (apart from possible assassins and other fun). If he's not, he will likely lose his throne. His step-brother is the son of the current Queen afterall. Not an insignificant claim. With his step-mum, the current Queen, acting as Regent until his step-brother comes of age. I'm not sure that I entirely agree with that - it really depends on whether the people expect him to become King (likely) and on how long they are prepared to wait before choosing anew. It would have to be an increibly fickle and unstable country that sent for a King who's route to the Kingdom is almost certainly treacherous and then expect him to arrive in on time as though the route was a complete stroll. Also in the end if he chooses the quicker route he risks death (there must be a fairly high probablility of that - over 20%) or the death of many of his troops. If he chooses the slow route and looses his Kingdom...so what , he's lost the dangerous burden of ruling his Kingdom, the threat of assassination and can go back to his studies. More than likely his step mum and son will Quote: fall off the map fairly soon afterwards anyway and he'll once again be wisked off to Kinghood. That's why I think he should go for the slower route - less risk, and consequently more chance of gain. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Oooh! Vigourous discusion! Like it like it! Actually, Smee had a good point. The number and identity of the woodsfolk were not identified. It could be some bandits who decided to leg it when they saw the troops, or Smee's old man and dog. Of course, it could be something more sinister... _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: What makes him think that he'd actually be able to overthrow his step-mum, and that puppet King her son would be. They'd have control of the army, and of the people. I think they should take the quickest route - afterall - what type of impression are you trying to set as King? One who cowers, and shies away from danger? Or one you is prepared to ride through the lion's mouth towards his target? _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Quote: What makes him think that he'd actually be able to overthrow his step-mum, and that puppet King her son would be. They'd have control of the army, and of the people . Well, (he says, making stuff up quickly), she is unlikely to try anything overtly risky whilst she still has a chance of making a grab for power legally, plus she will have her own enemies, and other people will be loyal to the old king and legitimate heir. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Of course, but that doesn't mean he can simply assume that defeating her will be simple. If it was - then there'd be no risk in going the long way. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: lordofthenight wrote: Of course, but that doesn't mean he can simply assume that defeating her will be simple. If it was - then there'd be no risk in going the long way. Oh yes, valid point. That's the nub of the DP here. That and who/what is in the woods of course. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author CunningFox Citizen Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 210 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: nother new one i see. well I think you should find out more about hwo is in teh forest. Send some scouts in they are expendable. _________________ Just browsing, thank-you. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Ok, all valid points...but it isn't actually that imporatnt to this guy to be made King, it seems as though he would be much happier letting someone else take the throne from him in a cou and go back to studying - in which case the longer route makes sense. He either becomes King or gets to go back and study until his step mum/brother are assassinated. Taking the shorter route he either becomes King or dies horribly at the bunch of masked killers who will come pouring from the woods to tear him limb from limb - well...faces death at any rate. Therefore the wisest move for him to take is the longer route. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: Quote: but it isn't actually that imporatnt to this guy to be made King, it seems as though he would be much happier letting someone else take the throne from him in a cou and go back to studying Come now Jez, you really think someone who has taken the throne would leave him alive, to turn up and challenge them in the future? Tush tush. Quote: in which case the longer route makes sense. He either becomes King or gets to go back and study until his step mum/brother are assassinated Of course, that is another option! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Quote: Come now Jez, you really think someone who has taken the throne would leave him alive, to turn up and challenge them in the future? Tush tush. Yeah, he'd have to send scouts ahead to check on the situation and be prepared to flee back to the law school if the other members of his family are in charge. Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: I still think he should go on the longer route. I'm not sure why. I just do. _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: F5 Whitey , although for the reasons that I've been over above - definately got to be the longer route. When (roughly) is the poll going to come out for this - could be an interesting vote ? Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: JezSharp wrote: F5 Whitey , although for the reasons that I've been over above - definately got to be the longer route. When (roughly) is the poll going to come out for this - could be an interesting vote ? I will leave it over the weekend for anyone else to comment and put a poll up late Sunday or Monday. (China time). _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author solus.serpen Respected Citizen Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Take the longer route. _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image chapter 6 of DESTINY - a super old SG which won't continue...but there are a full 6 chapters if you feel like reading something with no ending! Back to top Author chiacutie Guest Items Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: I say kill the b**** and her son, they were going to do it first, or send them somewhere, I have no conscience. Stay and go to the court. That's what I command. Now go! Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Uh, chia? You do realise that the option was which path to take, not how to deal with your family? Oh, and C'ren? What relation was he to the dead king? _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: The White Blacksmith wrote: Uh, chia? You do realise that the option was which path to take, not how to deal with your family? Oh, and C'ren? What relation was he to the dead king? He is the Prince, second so* to the dead King. (His older brother was also killed). The first poll for this SGame is up! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Ride on I say, through Hell and High Weather. And I'm sure you already said he was the late King's son. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Drive on through the woods _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Voted! Go round. You have the4 time. It seems this country has had a monarch quite recently so it won't completly fall apart and turn to a baby if you take a tiny bit longer _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Quote: It seems this country has had a monarch quite recently so it won't completly fall apart and turn to a baby if you take a tiny bit longer We're not concerned with the country falling apart. We're concerned with our Step-mum taking the throne, and then likely having us killed. And that is a problem if we take 'a tiny bit longer' Come on people - vote through the woods _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: As far as I'm concerned, having the throne taken from us is not our only concern. If word gets out that we backed away at first sign of trouble, then our step-mum and son would almost be justified in the trying to take the throne. A weak king has no real right to the throne, and not how we'd want to appear. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: But a King who thinks before he acts will not get half te country killed when he trys to go up against a country 5 times the size (with much better weaponry) in a war just cause he wanted to appeared unafraid. _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: The White Blacksmith wrote: But a King who thinks before he acts will not get half te country killed when he trys to go up against a country 5 times the size (with much better weaponry) in a war just cause he wanted to appeared unafraid. Who says the Step mother won't do that too? _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: So the step mother is outrageously stupid then?> Excellent! That makes things a lot easier! _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author ninja baloon Guest Items Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Drive through the woods like a hot sledge hammer through butter*! What kind of story would this be without the action? Okay, let's trot around the forest and admire the countryside. Oh! Look at that, a Kestrel! What lovely scenary.... give me a break! In all honesty I would love there to be a huge demonic army waiting behind a cardboard pin up forest that could implode ones head just by looking at you. *I don't know what it is about that quote that I love so much. It just screams overkill! Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Quote: Oh! Look at that, a Kestrel! What lovely scenery. You tempt me Nalloon. Actually, though of course there will be action, my plan* is for intrigue** and politicial manauverings** rather than all out warfare. *Remembering the old adage: No plan has ever survived contact with the enemy. **So I should really learn how to spell these. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author OldJoe Citizen Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 125 Location: On mah steed. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: I reckon yer should drive ahead, full gallop and break through any ambush. Yup. _________________ Get off yer horse and drink yer milk. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: This story will lurch into life soon, along with my others. I have just been too busy with RL to write lately. However, I did finally manage to start a map off, which I have posted at the start of this thread here. My workload is beginning to ease, so I should have time (and energy) to write again by next week, maybe before. FYI. Being an artistic clutz, I have been searching the internet for a map generator. I haven't yet found something that will draw it for me but the one I am trying out here is Authorealm which doesn't seem to be too bad, though it's a bit unwieldly. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author solus.serpen Respected Citizen Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:48 pm    Post subject: um, ok, i wasn't expecting him to send out his scouts as it was the option with only one vote... but, albeit that, it was a good chapter. I'll think about the poll and come back when i have any ideas. _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image chapter 6 of DESTINY - a super old SG which won't continue...but there are a full 6 chapters if you feel like reading something with no ending! Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: solus.serpen wrote: um, ok, i wasn't expecting him to send out his scouts as it was the option with only one vote... but, albeit that, it was a good chapter. I'll think about the poll and come back when i have any ideas. The vote was to go through the forest, which he did. The scout bit seemed only sensible. Should that option have won, it would have had a different outcome... _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author solus.serpen Respected Citizen Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:32 am    Post subject: ah, ok, i see. nice avater btw chinaren . _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image chapter 6 of DESTINY - a super old SG which won't continue...but there are a full 6 chapters if you feel like reading something with no ending! Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:32 am    Post subject: Yep F5 solus on your avater China . With reference to the vote Quote: The vote was to go through the forest ...The vote was tied (he said, still feeling a little annoyed the future King chose such a reckless route...mutter...grumble...mutter) but I guess you used an author's supreme power to make the choice . Anyway swiftly moving on and focusing on this dp...I'm going to go through and throw out a ream of ideas to alleviate my frustration . First: He could attack the gaurds with his band of bedraggled men. This would not be a good idea, it could start a civil war, certainly not endear himself to his people and there is a very good chance that he may be killed in fighting. Particularaly as he has lost most of his fighting men in the forest - essentially he is travelling with a band of scouts and nothing more after all the knights were forced to retreat. Definately a no-no. Second: He could try to negotiate with the gaurds. So far though this doesn't seem to have worked too well and the the gaurds seem to have a rather rigid approach to keeping gaurd - although it really doesn't help that they have wound them up the wrong way to start with. Third: They could try to entertain the gaurds, if they have any wine on them they could share it with the gaurds and perhaps some of them have some talents (such as low level magic tricks etc) to distract the gaurds, then slip through. Fourth: If they have some wine they could drug it and send all the gaurds to sleep. If there is a protest about their actions later they could always claim they were testing out the city's security systems. Fifth: They could try another gate. This seems a more attractive option...surely not all the gaurd posts can be as rigid and unhelpful as this one...add to that that they have already annoyed the leader of the gaurds at this point. Sixth: Perhaps some of the gaurds know of secret passages or hidden enterences to the city that they could use, unlikely but nonetheless a possible option that could easily bypass the problem. Seventh: He could just go back to mage school , why bother being King...it's proving to be much too dangerous and tiring. Having lost so many men in the woods though he may as well try and get to be King, so this option really isn't that viable now. Eighth: He could wait for more travellers to come to the City and rob them of their money to pay the toll. Obviously they'd have to do this out of sight of thegaurds and there may not be many rich travellers coming within the next few days...so this is a fairly large risk - as well as having the potential for all sorts of problems (e.g the person they rob is famous, a diplomat from another state etc). Nineth: He could try and slip over the city walls by night. As he is with a group of scouts they ought to know better than most the quietest way to slip in unnoticed, plus they have inside knowledge of how the city is gaurded, maybe there is a weak spot? Tenth: He could request an audience with someone who knows him and is loyal to him from within the city, if there is anyone matching that description. The gaurd leader may well refuse the request though (in which case he could try a different gate. Eleventh: He could try to bribe the gaurd...but as they don't appear to have much to bargain with this option isn't looking to promising (and kind of goes back to robbing a fellow travellor). Twelveth: He could waylay some travellers and try to convince them that he is the King of the land and that he will reward them richly if they will pay the fee in...in fact he doesn't even need to say he is King, just promise that he will pay them back double once they are within the city and that he won't leave their sight until he has paid the debt back. Thirteenth: He could use some of the stuff he used at mage school to frighten the gaurds into letting him pass - it's doubtful that this would work with these gaurds. Fourteenth: He could ask the gaurds to escort him unarmed to whoever sent the note asking him to take over the Kingdom. In fact he could just produce the note if he still has it to further back up his claim. Fifteenth: He could work on creating some sort of diversion at night, perhaps have the other scouts release fire arrows into the air near the city gate then slip through whilst the gaurds are investigating. The worst that could happen is that he is arrested (well I suppose they may decide to shoot him) and thrown into jail within the Kingdom from which he ought to be able to prove who he is. However if the news of this gets out (as it surely will) it would be rather awkward for him. Right I've finished for now , am feeling much better . Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Quote: I own, I brought no money with me I'm not sure if that's what you meant - it didn't seem to make complete sense in the context. And Jez - Guards is spelt u before a, you managed to get it wrong every single time. As for the decision point, surely he'd have some piece of identification, or at the very least some trinket which could be worth something. He could try bribing the guard with that - if he has it of course. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Quote: Jez - Guards is spelt u before a, you managed to get it wrong every single time. Well that's some sort of acheivement , I remeber looking at it briefly as subconcious alarm bells sounded in my head but foolishly chose to ignore them...nvm, hopefully I won't make that mistake again. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Quote: Fifteenth: He could work... Fifteen? Is that all you could manage? Thanks Jez, I don't think anyone has managed to give 15 options to one of my* SGames before! I think some sort of award could be in order for that one... Oh, and the 'cut through the forest' vote beat the 'go around' one by two votes, 6 to 4. lordofthenight wrote: Quote: I own, I brought no money with me I'm not sure if that's what you meant - it didn't seem to make complete sense in the context. Admitedly I am not 100% certain, I but I am reasonably sure it is an olde English way of saying 'I admit'. I have seen it around, and I liked the cut of it's jib. [Edit] From dictionary.com: To admit as being in accordance with fact, truth, or a claim; acknowledge. Quote: nice avater btw chinaren Thanks SS, though it is actually an old avatar, recycled. *Or anyone elses for that matter. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Last edited by Chinaren on Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:05 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Quote: Oh, and the 'cut through the forest' vote beat the 'go around' one by two votes, 6 to 4. Oh ok my bad - I must have mis-read it at some stage then...unless it was beacuse me and solus voted too late...hmm that might of been the case as we both went for the longer route. Anyway looking forward to the poll and next chapter...in the meantime I'll see if I can think of any more ideas . [Edit] Yey , have come up with a few more ideas: Sixteenth: He could try and suggest a duel to prove that he is the deserving King of the land. If he wins he gets to pass through - allbeit alone and escorted by the guards. Hopefully his fighting skills are reasonable...Actually he could try an issue any sort of challenge - brains, chess (or whatever their national game is) with him getting to be escorted into the city as a prize for winning. Seventeenth: If he learned powers such as hypnotism at mage school he could now use them here to good effect. Eighteenth: They could attempt to build a light glider and fly the King over the walls into the city. Or build a set of them, coasting in under the cover of darkness, assuming they know how to make such contraptions. Nineteeth: They could attempt to escape paying such a high toll by getting rid of their horses...in fact only the King has to pass on through by himself in which case they need but one gold coin...if that. Alternatively (assuming they all wanted to pass) if some animals like cows can pass through free of charge (as a gift to the Kingdom for example) they could go away and kill some cows then dress up in their skins and be led through by one of the lower ranking scouts at a different gate. Twentieth: Theycould go for a more interesting array of disguises. A bizzare one would be to dress as wild animals...large foxes etc and slip through at night...but far more realistic is an attempt to slip through dressed as shrubbary and bushes at night...a long shot but incredibly funny to watch . Right I am definately going to stop at 20, as it's a nice round number ...and I'm starting to run low of remotely feasable suggestions. Like to see what the next poll is going to look like China . Last edited by JezSharp on Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:26 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: I like the horse one. The polls here can only fit in 10 options, so I am going to have to choose I think!! Plus, I am awarding you my GOLD Idea award! Congratulations Jez, this comes with a 500F prize, donated by me! Your full size award will be in Chinaren Hall Hall of Heroes. Last edited by Chinaren on Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:12 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Thing is, there's suggestions, and suggestions. For instance - dressing up as animals? Is that really likely to work? However, offering to trade him one of the horses, as opposed to disguising it, would be more likely to work than building a glider. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Well the animals one wasn't entirely serious (although two men inside a sewn up cow skin at dusk may still work quite well)...shrubbary would be slightly more likely to work (although the gaurds would have to be fairly poor at best). I F5 Lordy about trading the horses - if they trade all six horses then they have to pay six less coins and ought to get at least six coins to pay their own entry fee. He will have all the horses he wants when he is King...I'm surprised I missed that ...a glider wasn't a bad plan if they had the ability to make one ( the others are scouts so there is some chance that they could - actually as they are mainly scouts they ought to be good at dressing up and moving as bushes - althougth the King probably won't be quite as adept) - still not as practical as the trade idea. Wow I won an award . Thanks China , much appreciated. Back to top Author Jack_D.Mented Respected Citizen Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 958 Location: Hiding out in the woods of Washington Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject: He should just offer them Taral as a slave. He's useless. _________________ Eadgar's Saga Chapter 2 POLL Abattoir Chapter 2! Back to top Author Alegria Honored Citizen Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 1199 Location: On the beaches with Dr. Suess' Sneeches. Only the star-bellied ones, of course. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Nice story Chinaren, I liked the reference to the (at least around here) little-known lost world of Ys. Try another gate, as Jez said. _________________ A writer doesn't solve problems. He allows them to emerge. -Friedrich Dürrenmatt Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: I suppose he dosn't have any sort of royal identification like a ring or medalion or something. That would be too easy I guess Paying the toll with trade sounds most feasible. If the horses aren't enough, maybe even give their armor and weapons. If there is some loyal nobleman they can send for to identify them, perhaps they can use the bit of money they do have to pay someone to take a letter in to the city. All types of sneaking in ideas seem foolish. Since we've already got men killed in an ambush just to be here on time. Besides, sneaking into your own city like theives, just because some dumb guard dosn't believe you is hardly a good way to start your rule. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: How about any vaulable item as a seal to their word that they will pay? Like a really good sword worth twice the poll offered. These are knights we are talking about here, there must be at least one good blade amoung them. If not, the whole trade thing seems the best option. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Quote: These are knights - not sure they are, I thought they were scouts with the King. All the knights were used as a diversion to protect the straw King. Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: No royal tatoo's or birthmarks? Clearly the man will know the King is dead. He should also know that one of the Princes was training to be a mage. With the loss of the King and his brother, it would make sense that we'd be called to take our throne. Agree to leave our men outside and ask to be escorted to the Palace. If we're lying, then we can be arrested. If we're telling the truth, then we'll agree to pay the full 12 Crowns on reaching the palace. With so many men on the gate (enough to outnumber us) then it can hardly be an issue of leaving the gate 'unmanned' if a couple of them escort us. I'm still enjoying it - keep it coming (and give us another Garden chapter too ) Happy Writing. _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Good comments all, and don't worry Smee, I am working on the next chapter of Garden. Expect it soon! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: I have filtered the (many) suggestions and put up a poll with the ones I thought the most likely. Thanks for those, now all you have to do is click and... click. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: Well having made most of the suggestions, I think I'll now try and tear some of them apart . 1) Attempt to distract the guards and slip through. Slim chance of working assuming the other scouts can put on some sort of fire show at night and only the Prince slips through - If he's caught there could be great embarressment for him. The risk is too high and so this option is not advisable. 2) Try another gate. Not a bad option - in fact I'd say try it. Surely they can't annoy every guard at every gate as much as they have annoyed this one. If they do...well then barter and trade the horses. 3) A secret passage...would be great if there was one but with no clear existence of one...still if it's in the options presumably one will exist if it's voted for...this option starts to look quite tempting... 4)Attempt to slip over the wall at night. Assuming the Kingdom employs guards who have more than half a brain and aren't blind this strategy is destined to fail. 5) Try and borrow money (with double payback once inside). Might work if the right traveller comes along...could take a very long time and negate all the loss of life they endured to get here quickly. 6) Barter. Works well, however I'd argue that it's negated by trying a nother gate first ( or several gates) to see if they can pass through without selling anything. If they can then that is clearly a better way to go (plus headlines about the King having to sell his ponies to enter the City isn't going to look great. 7) Another incredibly good option if he can get the guards to agree - again it would be best to try another gate then ask to implement this. 8 ) Steal some money. Better time wise than asking for a loan but fool hardy and reckless. It could cause all sorts of diplomatic tensions and bad headlines - definately a no - no. That leaves then 2,3,6 and 7...Time wise a secret passage may be slower or faster depending where it is located, slightly more risk - however the fact that it is (royal) suggests that it enters directly into the main palace where he'll be recognised. And it negates any would be assassins in the crowd. If he isn't to take the passage he should take options 6 or 7 (7 first then 6) at another gate (option 2). Therefore it's between another gate or a secret passage. Based on assuming such a royal passage exists and that as it's secret it will either be deserted or gaurded by those who implicitly know the King (or would be willing to take him to someone who does anyway) I'm going for the secret passage . Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:22 am    Post subject: I decided that voting for a secret passage that may well not exist is really a fool's plan, and went for bartering instead. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Quote: I decided that voting for a secret passage that may well not exist is really a fool's plan, and went for bartering instead. ...I'd agree wholeheartedly if there was no evidence it existed...however if it was to win the poll then in writing in the next Chapter it would almost certainly have to exist otherwise there would be no way that the Prince and scouts would go look for it. Clearly the Scouts either know it exists or don't know of its existence currently - if the secret passage were to win the vote the chances are that one of the scouts knows of such a passage and so they would go look for it. Perhaps that's looking at it from the wrong point of view...anyway yes if we assume that they would be searching blindly for a passage they clearly need to go to a new gate and then attempt to first ask for an escort into the castle and then bartering if that fails. Back to top Author OldJoe Citizen Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 125 Location: On mah steed. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Ah made it a three way tie. Yup. _________________ Get off yer horse and drink yer milk. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Assuming that simply because Secret Passageway made the poll means one exists seems foolish to me. The Prince and party could spend their time looking for a passageway that doesn't exist, only to be spotted by the guards and arrested for loitering (or some similar innocent crime). The time they'd waste could allow his step-mother to gain control of the throne, and time isn't something they have to spend - bartering would be quicker than searching for a possibly non-existant passage. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Quote: Assuming that simply because Secret Passageway made the poll means one exists seems foolish to me I'd still disagree - if it wasn't a serious option that they were considering then it wouldn't be in the poll and for them to be seriously considering it they must know the whereabouts of the passage. Anyway the bog standard safer option is to just barter their horses (although I still say they should do it at another gate) - they then still have to negotiate their way to the palace and get in their which could lead to the same ID problems with the gaurds their. A secret passage would lead directly into the palace and the fact that they knew of it would almost be certain proof of his Kingship. Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: Hey Chinaren, *grins* Haven't had first post for a while. Good chapter. I enjoyed it. A nice catch up of the situation, and unlike the Turkey without cranberry sauce, not too dry either. A couple of technicalities... Quote: but it has been appearing hear and there, slowly moving south over time. Quote: Byrold took a deep draught of his wine, oncentrating on Sterling's words And this one is me not understanding... Quote: “I suspect she intends to hold you here until after the coronation, when she can mount a legal challenge for the throne.” Why would she need to mount a legal challenge if she's had her son coronated? Without a Prince of some form then there is no coronation to wait for - it just can't happen? ~ As for the decision point. Head to the Mages. We don't need political power right now, but protection. Within the protection of the mages we can garner the time to appeal to more politically useful allies later. Happy Writing _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: I have to agree with Smee, mostly because I like mages. Plus, while others may not like Eldra, we know the mages actually like Byrold. After getting mage protection it looks like the patriarch is the next most likely supporter. Then with some magical insurance he can look for some military support. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: A note is slipped into your hands by a heavily cloaked figure, and before you can notice more, they slipped way. The note reads... Treachary! It is to be suspected I guess, as it was once said; "An oppentent underestaimated is ten times as deadly as a oppenent overestimated." Clearly the Prince made that mistake, he doesn't need to make again. I agree with Smee, and Argo though, seek out the mages. Even people who dislike ones oppenent can betray oneself if they have other interest, such as promoting their own interest towards the crown. The mages like the Prince, and while they are a minority, they will be able at least to provide temporary protection. One thing though, Eldra will probably expect the Prince to go to the Mages headquarters so it will probably be watched. Personally instead of going to the main headquaters for the mages, which as I said may be watched, I would have the prince head towards a mage's personal home. Perhaps go to a powerful mage friend who is not to powerful, noticable, or otherwise infutional, someone who might live in a small apartment on a side street or a cottage perhaps. Right now, the smaller the better. Big moves such as going to Powerful members who are against Eldra is an obvious move, and therefore dangerous. The same thing goes for the Main Mage Headquaters. Eldra knows the mages like him, and knows that the prince if and when in trouble would probably go there first. So...pull the unexpected, heads towards the small not the big. Remember it is a whole lot harder to find a handful of common people in a big city than it is to find an army in the woods, or even to find one nobleman in a large city. [size=x-small]**Out of curiousity Chinaren, may I ask where the other countries and rulers you asked for volenteers come in? Just curious on when or if we could expect to take part in this story also.[/size] Until my next apperance, I lurk in the shadows. The note has been signed, Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Smee wrote: Hey Chinaren, *grins* Haven't had first post for a while. Good chapter. I enjoyed it. A nice catch up of the situation, and unlike the Turkey without cranberry sauce, not too dry either. A couple of technicalities... Quote: but it has been appearing hear and there, slowly moving south over time. Aha! Already caught that one. Smee wrote: And this one is me not understanding... Quote: “I suspect she intends to hold you here until after the coronation, when she can mount a legal challenge for the throne.” Why would she need to mount a legal challenge if she's had her son coronated? Without a Prince of some form then there is no coronation to wait for - it just can't happen? Ah yes, I see what you mean. I will have to sort that one out. What I meant, I mean, what Sterling meant is that she could wait until he didn't show for the coronation, and then she could mount a challenge, as mentioned before somewhere. Didntrunwell wrote: Out of curiousity Chinaren, may I ask where the other countries and rulers you asked for volenteers come in? Just curious on when or if we could expect to take part in this story also. I don't want to make the same mistake as I did in Garden and introduce too many characters/countries all at once. Hence this story will start up 'slowly' with the 'set player' nations coming in a little later, and over time. Initially we will follow Byrold and his struggles for the crown. When (if??!) he makes it to king, then he will be concentrating more on affairs of state, and that shall be when things shall start getting interesting. Fear not though, the game has already begun. I just need more time to build up the political map more completely, and work out all the factions. This one will get complicated down the line I think!! This story is probably going to be a long one! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Another note has been slipped into your possession, this time it was slipped under your door. Curious once again, you read... Completly understand Chinaren! It is better to start of slow rather than fast, it keeps things changing and guarentees an interesting plot. The real reason why I was asking was simply what I said it was curiosity. I'm really do enjoy this story, I can't to find out who and when Bryold will become King. If I didn't know this story didn't have anything else coming down the line, I think I would still be interested in reading it, and that is a good thing. However, I do know, and I await eagerly for both Bryold's possible crowning and the plot to thicken. If you need any help with the political landscape, let me know, I'm very good at creating fictional histories. If there is anyway I can make your job easier, let me know, I would be glad to help. Things are kind a slow on mine end, so I need to be keep busy before I do something crazy like start a new storgame. ((And we all know I do Not need to do that.)) [q]This one will get complicated down the line I think!! This story is probably going to be a long one![/q] Complicated and long....ah my two favorite words in stories. As an ex-bookworm addict (I can stop reading anytime I like really!), to me a good book means nothing less than 1000 pages, or if I most sacrifice I can do no less than 500. Anything less in my opinion isn't worth reading, unless of course it's by a good author who's nice enough to make it a series. But I progress in the dangerously off topic, to finish this little note of mine, let end by simple saying: I can wait, no matter how long it takes, and that my friend is saying much of the quality of your story. The signature at the bottom reads, Back to top Author Jack_D.Mented Respected Citizen Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 958 Location: Hiding out in the woods of Washington Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Perhaps if all other options fail, he could persue a foreign ally... Or he should just go with Marshal Ren. He's a good strong fighting man. If you have the armies behind you, you own the state. That simple. _________________ Eadgar's Saga Chapter 2 POLL Abattoir Chapter 2! Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: dinranwen wrote: A note is slipped into your hands by a heavily cloaked figure, and before you can notice more, they slipped way. The note reads... One thing though, Eldra will probably expect the Prince to go to the Mages headquarters so it will probably be watched. Personally instead of going to the main headquaters for the mages, which as I said may be watched, I would have the prince head towards a mage's personal home. Perhaps go to a powerful mage friend who is not to powerful, noticable, or otherwise infutional, someone who might live in a small apartment on a side street or a cottage perhaps. I have to disagree here. If we're quick, it can be assumed that Eldra won't be wasting resources watching the mages as she will be convinced she has us locked up. Head straight for the main tower/base and quickly. Going in to hiding will be to Eldra's benefit as much as us being locked up. She just wants us out of sight until she can put in her claim on behalf of her son. We need to maintain as much public view as possible once under the mage protection. _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: I'm not so sure about going to the mages as he does need to be gaining public liking/momentum on the run up to the coronation - it sounds as though he does have the majority of the support and so hiding until the coronation would only play into Eldra's hands as Smee suggested. Perhaps he should initially go to the mages for protection then have them escort him about the city to various fractions, gaining their support. Actually that sounds like the best plan for definate - he gains protection and support. Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: I F5 Smee. Mages, Partiarch, Military. _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Interesting. Looks like the mages are the majority choice so far. I will wait another day and then put up a poll, so any more ideas get them in quick! [Edit] I have also updated the synopsis at the start of this thread with another map. It's slowly coming together people. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Well I'm fine with the mages as long as he ensures that he makes many visits and appearences before his coronation to gain much needed momentum. Alternatively he could ensure he is in the public view constantly, surrounded by loyal bodygaurds - surely Eldra wouldn't go as far as a public assassination. Or how about he arrests Eldra on charges of high treason until after the coronation (perhaps using the mages if she is well gaurded) ...that has to work (assuming she can be found). It doesn't matter if there is no proof of course, she can be released with no charge after the coronation and besides he has complete authority on what goes on in his Kingdom. It's a bold and origional move worthy of a King and will make the run up to his coronation much safer and allow him time to be in the public eye at every opportunity. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Poll is up then. Choose who to head for now. After the initial choice, when he is (hopefully) safe, he will try and stay in the public eye and garner support from the other factions. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: I voted for going to Marshall Ren. We need strength of arm to win this tussle. Yet another nice story, China. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Just caught up with this one China and might I say nice. Also I voted for the Marshal Ren. In times like this it is best to present a strong military force to your foes although I recommend getting Councilor Merkon on you side ASAP. Simple because you'll need a people person to keep the citizens from getting...worried. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Well, look at that. The vote has disagreed with the comments! Mind you, I may have split the mage vote. Welcome to the story D and Rai! Voting is still open, so get em in. I will start working on the next chapter soon. Assuming RL eases up a little. It suddenly has become a bit busy, which has thrown my schedule off. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: To the mage hall Just need another two to vote the same _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: OKay then, I am starting work on the next chapter, so closing the poll. Thanks for your votes! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: It'd be risky, but he could try and have the Father replaced. It's doubtful that he'd have any replacements at hand though. Maybe try investigating the hand - prove it was cut off by natural means, in an attempt to stop the corination, rather that the hand (no pun intended) of God. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Yes a very tricky dilemma...he could start by pointing out the differences between the two stories to Father Ted - as in neither he nor Ted have lost a right hand and therefore the sign is clearly that to make another other than himself King would be going against God...or he could have them all spread outand hunt for clues as to who had moved the hand there (there ought to be a trail of blood spots possibly leading away from the hand) but I think using the obvious reasoning above would be best. If that fails then they could declare that Father Ted has been taken ill and a replacement chosen to perform the ritual. This would rely on Father Ted's hasty banishment or imprisonment (for the latter announce treason against him as the reason for a replcement) as he is being forced into fighting cunning with cunning here. Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:12 am    Post subject: exileing or imprisoning the country's religious leader is not a good way to start your rule. Even if they manage to cover it up for now, that's just more ammo for enemys to use against you later, because you know it will be discovered eventually. Convincing the patriarch that it's not god somehow looks like the best option, but unless there are soem obvious clues around I have no idea how they're going to do it. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: I have to agree with Jez, here try to reason with the man. Try to prove that it was indeed a man that set it the hand there, and not god. Also, is there anyway that Bryold can prove beyond any doubt that he is the rightful king in the eyes of their gods? Certainly there must be some scripture for such a time? If not, well then, ask if Milak is the rightful king. Tell the Patriach if he Milak is the rightful king in the sight of their gods the hand should dispair if he slipping says: "If it be that Milak be the rightful king, let the hand disappear I pray thee. But if I, let the sign remain and prove that either god disagrees with both heirs or that man has put this hand here." That's the best I can suggest. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Maybe it was the Hand of God, and he should just leave again. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Some good suggestions here. When I wrote this I really had no idea of what to do. You guys He could get Father Tred to pray himself of course, or other mystical means. Replacing the Patriarch wouldn't be easy to do, but maybe he could say he was sick or something, though this would be seen as a bad omen by most. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Some more ideas (not close to twenty though ) The King could declare himself unwell and hold the coronation the next day when there should be a different Patriarch as Father Ted is Patriarch of the day. They could quickly remove the hand and convince Father Tedthat he was hallucinating under the stress - however he may just become more convinced it's the wrong choice. They could just broadcast the truth to the crowd but with subtle spin, 'The ceremony has been sabotaged by those unfriendly to the King by the mutilation of a persons hand fromtheir torso which has then been placed within the Chapel to scare poor Father Ted.' perhaps even have the King himself read itout if he's good with publicity, he may be able to charm the crowd at the same time. The majority of the crowd aren't stupid (hopefully) and without anything better to fall back on this may well work. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: My suggestion is to attempt to find another passage in the scriptures where a sign was faked and disaster happened, there are plenty of them in most religious texts. Convince the holy man with holy words. Or you could spin it that Byrold is so much the right king for the job that the had that was struck off long ago has been returned. Otherwise do like has been suggested and point out all the discrepencies between the sudden apperance of the hand and the real story. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Yeah, when Henry VIII wanted a divorce he quoted Leviticus, but there was something that contradicted Leviticus. _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Quote: My suggestion is to attempt to find another passage in the scriptures where a sign was faked and disaster happened, there are plenty of them in most religious texts. That's a good suggestion. The only problem with that is that the Holy Book is the priests 'territory' and anything they are likely to come up with the priest is likely to know and counter. However, should Father Tred want to believes Byrold, it may work... _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Hmmm. This is hard. Obviously, we could threaten Father Tred into doing what we ask, but this would most likely have bad long-term effects. It's still an option. Another option is to promise him money. He seems too scared, though. Maybe we could improvise: Byrold falls on the floor exclaiming: "God, chop off my hands if I don't deserve my kingdom!" If his hands fall off...tough luck. He could also argue that the message of the hand was actually meant for the second successor, signified by only one hand instead of two as in the scripture. Also- what clothes is Father Tred wearing? If he is wearing something over his head, or if there's something we can put on his head, then Sterling or one of the others can fake being Father Ted. After carrying out the ritual, we can help Tred understand- or kill him. By the way, isn't Tred a goofy name for a high priest? _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Is Byrold a good enough wizard to do 'suggestion' as in suggest that Byrold's scripture based arguments are strong and vaild. With that suggestion in Father Tred's mind I bet we could win him over since what Priest wants to doubt the holy word of God? Especially in this case? _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Kalanna Rai wrote: Is Byrold a good enough wizard to do 'suggestion' as in suggest that Byrold's scripture based arguments are strong and vaild. With that suggestion in Father Tred's mind I bet we could win him over since what Priest wants to doubt the holy word of God? Especially in this case? Sadly Byrold's magic levels are not good enough to pull this one off yet. Think of him as an apprentice, with a fair amount of Lore and theory, but not much practical application experience. Some good suggestions for this one people. I have put up a poll with some of them merged a bit, as otherwise it would have just been too big. So... vote away! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: A good chapter and a tricky situation. I've voted for trying to persuade him - Jez came up with good ideas. There really isn't time for anything else. Happy Writing _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author OldJoe Citizen Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 125 Location: On mah steed. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Ah reckon yer should try an reason with the fellah, afore yer take any serious action. So ah voted fer such. _________________ Get off yer horse and drink yer milk. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: I will be working on the next chapter of this in the next few days, so any more votes, get them in quick! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Went for reasoning with him and broke the tie. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: There was a tie? _________________ Tea Cures All. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Back when I voted there was...now not really. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: I have updated the maps and world background at the start of this thread, so please take a look. (Especially the 'set players!') New chapter is progressing, but I have been distracted by the holidays here, and the next coulple of days I am going to be a bit busy, but it is on the way! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: well there seems to be no shortage of warlike totalitarian dictators. If Byrold ever makes it to king he better get friendly with the elves. Because it looks like they are the only likely allies Unless the inscrutable bug monsters turn out to be really nice guys, haha. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: As the chapter has progressed I have updated my notes* and also the maps at the top of the thread. You now have a general, albiet rather crude map of the larger area around Yroth. Next chapter is coming soon, I promise! I have a lot of background stuff to work out as well as the writing, which is slowing me down. *Lots and lots of notes. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author The White Blacksmith Elder Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 2629 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Put someone as his superior (call him bob, or Pounds) and have that person make Sterling stay with him constantly. Sterling will stay in a position where he can help Byrold, but he will be supervised and he will not be as powerful as he used to be. Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Having a known traitor in your employ, even if he is watched constantly, is a dangerous thing. Still it's better than having and unknown traitor If Byrold is to keep Sterling around he can't really trust any information he gets, since any of it may be purposly leading him into a trap or simply misdirecting him. Still, information is always usefull. They could keep Sterling locked up and get infromation from him on the promise of future release if it turns out to be good, and penalty of death if he gives out any misderection. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I say keep Sterling with you at all times and have the mage put a compulsion of truth upon him if such can be done. This way he can't lie to you. Putting him in the dungeons just runs the risk of his cohorts helping him escape. Or you can just say you forgive him and feed him false information with the hope he will continue his vile treason. This way both sides are using him as a propaganda weapon. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Yes I f5 Whitey, ensure he is bound to a supervisor but free providing he provides useful information. I so love this sg - great Chapter China Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Nice chapter China. I like the way Byrold manipulated Tred, and how he's shaping up to be quite a leader. I think Byrold can't afford to forgive a traitor like Sterling at this point. If he does, everyone will think he's weak, and he can't afford that now, when he hasn't even been crowned. Byrold must be ruthless. For now, imprison Sterling and see what info you can get from him through torture. Byrold should also consider conducting a purge. Eldra has too many infiltrated people, and its getting worse every time. Find those who are faithful to him and promote them. Get rid of the corrupt or those who seem to doubt of you. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Oooh, a purge eh? Could be interesting. Actually, the DPs and how Byrold reacts will now start to shape the kind of person he is, and how he rules when/if! he becomes king, and how his people view him. I mean he could turn into a benevolent and kind ruler, or one bent on conquest who ruthlessly controls his people and country. Good comments so far guys, keep em coming. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Jack_D.Mented Respected Citizen Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 958 Location: Hiding out in the woods of Washington Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: It's better that he die an honest man than live as a traitor. Kill him. _________________ Eadgar's Saga Chapter 2 POLL Abattoir Chapter 2! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Nothing has actually been linked back to Eldra yet - a move against her - while prudent - could be seen as the act of a tyrant. Not that there's anything wrong with tyrants of course, but they do seem to upset people. However, inquisitors are also fun, so send him to them. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:59 am    Post subject: Well, when do you plan to start getting rid of her? She obviously already attempted it with you various times. Right now, this is a battle for Byrold's survival. If Eldra kills him, then he won't a tyrant or a benevolent ruler- he'll just be dead. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: I would have to agree with both Rai and Whitey here, at least to some extent. Sterling may be a traitor but he can still be used. I once read a book once on the history of some of the old kingdoms. One king when confronted with a situation like this did something dangerous, interesting, and useful all it once. A man, his head servant man to be exact, had been collecting gold from the royal treasuries and hiding it in a secret location. The man was found out of course, and the king had the same choice we do. Want to know what he did? After a long discussion where the man seemed generally sorry, the King let him go and followed him directly to the gold. However just before the man got to the mine he had a change of heart, something about the King's charity appealed to him, he returned to the king with the gold in hand and once again begged his forgiveness. As a reward, the King domoted him to the lowest position in the castle with the exception that if the servant proved trustworthy with the dirtest hardest job in the Kingdom, he would be promoted until maybe one day reaching his positon as steward to the king. Why not do the same here? Make Sterling a pig-keeper or something, this way he is in sight, but not in a postition that could threaten the king. Also by planting spies around Sterling, not only will you be able to watch him closely, but will also be able to feed him falsehoods via a very babbly kitchen wrentch, mixed with rumors, truths, and fairytales, the positon would work in your favor totally. Sterling wouldn't be a threat in a lowly position as a pig keeper, he would be watched, and possibly his superiors may loose interest in him since he no longer has any influence or power in the castle leaving Sterling with only one place to turn if he has any hope of gaining anything of his miserable situation: Bryold. Once Sterling is in the position he might be willing to rat out his superiors who did nothing to improve his surrondings. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: Or - of course - he could also run away, and escape without punishment. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author juggernaut Guest Items Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Sterling has knowledge of the kingdom that could be far too dangerous left unsecure. Also, he has influence in the city that could be useful to Byrold. Killing Sterling would be a waste, however some punishment is in order. I think Master Wizard Mazell should turn him into a parrot or some other creature so he can still be accessible to give advice. As long as Sterling is promised the opportunity to regain his human form through loyal service to Byrold i believe Sterling might be a valuble commodity. At any rate, Sterling's part in the King's death must be ascertained. If he did take part in an assassination, there is no other choice but to publicly execute him. A future King must be firm and swift when an injustice has been uncovered Back to top Author OldJoe Citizen Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 125 Location: On mah steed. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Ah was goin' ter say yer should do him in, but ah like Mr.Juggernaut's parrot ideah. _________________ Get off yer horse and drink yer milk. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Indeed the idea has merit however, if you turn him into some small creature what's to say he won't escape and go find someone willing to give him his form back in exchange for information? Still turning Sterling into something, like a sterling silver amulet that can only talk to those loyal to Byrold might be nice. Also have Sterling prove his loyalty by ratting out his fellow traitors...of course if he does this he'll be proving himself a traitor twice over and you know what Alexander did with those...Whatever suits you I say keep Sterling around as a medallion until he's outlived his usefulness as both advisor and fashion accessory then quietly dispose of him. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Okay, some good suggestions here. I will leave it a few more days then put up a poll. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: ...and as if by magic... Vote away! A traitor awaits your judgment*! *This is the correct spelling apparently. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author CunningFox Citizen Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 210 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: im still reading this one china and enjoying it to. I went for the animal idea, it seems to be a better way to keep him under control while getting use out of him. _________________ Just browsing, thank-you. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Went for the rack of course. Don't forget, Byrold may ask Mazel to transform him into a small animal, but there's no guarentee that Mazel will be proffiecent enough in transmogrification to transform Sterling into a small animal, yet remain the capibility to communicate with the Prince. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Smee Revered IFian Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 5215 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: I went for the small animal. Mainly because it involves magic Lordy makes good points though. Plus we don't want him escaping. Maybe a sloth, or turtle - something that isn't moving very fast if ever given the opportunity to escape. Happy Writing _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd! Back to top Author Random Guest Items Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Great story China! You are really getting a knack for this story gaming thing I voted to lock him up and question him. A mix of compassion and bravery will certainly turn your people's eyes to favorable light when they again look upon you. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8879 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: The next chapter is being written, if RL will back off for 10 seconds, so the poll is now closed. Thanks for voting all. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author solus.serpen Respected Citizen Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Ah, just caught up. Very interesting. Shame I missed the POLL though - not that it would have made much/any difference really. Looking forward to the next chapter, Solus. _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image chapter 6 of DESTINY - a super old SG which won't continue...but there are a full 6 chapters if you feel like reading something with no ending! 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