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The Hangover - Discussion thread - maybe even a cure! Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next   (currently a favorite of )    Storygames Home -> -> The Vault View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: The Hangover - Discussion thread - maybe even a cure! This thread is for any Q and A about what on earth might be going on Here. It is for any participants in the adventure to communicate outside the story if they need to, and for any non-participating observers to add their comments, as and when they feel like it. There are no rules here unless it gets to the point where some are needed. Below is a quick note on chapterizing (and an attempt to try and address the square-pegginess in round-holeness issue vis a vis the standard SG format versus the multi-author side of things!) Although the story is being laid down by multiple authors in short posts of 250 words or less, at appropriate intervals we'll summarize the plot so far. This will give everyone a breather, to discuss what has happened, and give new participants a chance to jump in at the next chapter without having to trawl through reams of previous text. This will also help to keep it fast moving, I hope. So far its got off to a great start, but am hoping to see a few more try this out, and maybe someone fill the role of the as yet unidentified IFian on the ledge! Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Still unidentified! But we do need a grappling hook. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard D-Lotus and Kalanna Rai! Cool idea to have a private investigator as one of the heroes. Right now D-Lotus is still coming to his senses, and there's an opportunity for the 3 characters to get off the ledge. The adventure is still open for anyone to join, there is no set limit for participants! Back to top Author BStheGreat Citizen Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 262 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Well, it seems I am the first person to become an enemy of the story, that has always been my favorite. _________________ Ubi sunt qui ante nos fuerunt? Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Hi everyone. I remember we did something similar to this in The True Story of InterFable. (Interfable was the old name of this website). At first it was truly hectic and wild, but suddenly a story began emerging, especially thanks to Smee, and I thought it was a lot of fun. It ended with an explanation by Key. Unfortunately, the sequel was a disaster. I'm glad you started something up like this. Part of the fun of The true story of IF was that you didn't know what somebody else was going to invent, so it made it very suspenseful. Here is the link, if you want to check it out. It was the first thread to be incorporated to the Archives. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: And it is well worthy of the honour! I loved the insanity of the first 4 pages and the brilliance of the the story when it really emerged, it is truly a gem! And welcome aboard BStheGreat! Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Yes, who would think that the gaseous explosions of badly digested burritos would lead to Smee's evil plan? _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: And guess who will make an apperance next! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: hey guys my character just came into the story I was leaving the decision to you to make me friend or enemy Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Yay interworld travel! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Player contridictions. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: ahh lighten up weaver I was gonna say that soon anyway Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Your mother, eh? _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: yep Cliche isn't it Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: No, Your father would be a cliche. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: More contridictions! Crucnhy, you really need to do somthing about that. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: you contradicted mr. chocobo not me I was going on with ye olde story Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Whaqt? I just added a new element. I didn't contridict anbody! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: you said crunchy should change contradictons I thought you were saying I was contradicting Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: OK a few notes about the Hangover. As posted at the top of the storygame, I was hoping that if this got past the review board it would end up in Jester Park in the experimental section. However, if it is to get past the review board at all, the quality of posts need to be consistent, and of a high standard. As multiple authors, this story game is ours, and we need to treat it like our own, personal storygames, so when we post, we need to think about it and write it out just as carefully. If it ever does get moved, it could be a great way of earning fables quickly, so it is NOT a good idea to blast it away with mindless posts without thinking ahead with possible future plot ideas. If you're looking for an opportunity to earn money quickly, that is a surefire way of throwing that opportunity away. I think those I'm aiming this at know who they are. Think carefully about the detail so that it is easy for co-authors to pick up on. If it's not easy to pick up on, your posts are going to be misunderstood, and more contradictions will arise. We are working together here. We should be writing something that we'll end up being proud of - even if it doesn't make Jester Park, at least I hope we'll end up with an enjoyable story that will have been fun to write, and fun to read also. I've asked everyone to stop posting temporarily until I get a summary up - so that some sense can be made of one or two of the more recent entries. Cheers all! Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: OK it's off and going again! Sasuke, I dont believe you got an official welcome, so here it is! You asked whether your character is friend or enemy, and to let us decide - I dont know, but have stuck in an interesting plot twist (I hope) looking at things from a different POV. It could put you in the enemy camp, at least for a while, I dunno! The summary is up, so we're now I guess on a sort of 'Chapter Two' and to save any newcomers having to dredge through all the previous posts, just scroll down to the 'Story So Far' post near the bottom of page 1 in the thread, then read on and post from there! By the way we do have an inventory of sorts, which is 1 arrow with a violet ribbon Some mushrooms. The quests in the plot are, so far: Let Kalanna know that the map locating the Soul Well she has taken back to the City is fake Find out who took the real map and why Get Masterweaver back to normality. Whatever that is Find out what grievance BStheGreat has against D-Lotus and how it all ties in Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Look out! The Hydra's loose! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Well, I've asked BStheGreat if it's ok, and he said it was. I'm going to be joining his ranks as one of the villians of the story. Oh, and I read The True Story of Inter Fable, an amazing piece of work Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Isn't it just! Wohoo! Welcome aboard! Looking forward to seeing your side of of the plot develop! Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Well, honestly, the posts were getting really hectic and there was too many of them- a big flurry of them, really, so your sypnopsis really helped, Crunchy. I agree with you- let's keep post quality up. By the way, I feel I should explain myself about one of the posts: After Sasuke gave Crunchy the mushrooms, it was somehow expected that I get up and follow towards the tunnel, but I think you guys overlooked the fact that I still hadn't eaten the mushrooms myself, and therefore I was befuddled. That's why I insisted on the hydra and the pools- my character still thought them there. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: And now I have two bodies. Go figure! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Yup, you were ok there, D! I was thinking along the same lines as you, I thought about throwing you a mushroom but didn't get to post in time.... ! Cool post about the conspiracy theory btw! Seems all of a sudden in MW's post we've come up nearby Polokin but he's in Jester Park... hmmm... so that means Jester Park must suddenly have gone up in flames since Polokin posted? I've got it smoldering as a compromise... Looks like Polokin and D are going to meet earlier than we thought then...! Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: What happened? How did the Park explode? Last edited by Polokin on Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:52 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: I have no idea... blame Masterweaver! Somehow between the time of your last post when you were sitting in the tranquil mist, and when D and friends appeared in an unspecified location amongst fire, MW's post made D's location close to where you were sitting. Maybe some time passed and something happened - in theory, you were there when it happened, you could write the explosion into your next post! Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Well, there's no explanation yet. We think it's part of the plot of those evil people who started this in the first place, but we're not sure. Kalanna seems to think that it was us who did it. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: I know i've been sitting in a cave for six years how do I clean a cave well looks like its time for a quick lesson Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: OH, right, I was wondering what the heck went on. I was hoping BS would post and continue mine, but it looks like I'll have to improvise How to explain a fire.. :S Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard Xansta! This is all starting to look very intriguing now... Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Masterweaver- can you please, please, leave Lecro out of the Hangover? You keep entangling everything. And please stop contradicting everything. In my post I said I didn't trust Rai, but in yours you wrote that I said we should trust her. Please pay a little attention. And stop with Lecro. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Quote: As I have said before, I cannot control Lecro! I don't understand this false pretense. Why do you continue to deny your involvement? This is the most pathetic excuse I have heard. You cannot ignore your responsibility in the story. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Masterweaver wrote: As I have said before, I cannot control Lecro! You may not be able to control him, but the mods can. If the other players in the storygame feel you are not contributing, and are simply throwing Lecro without reason, then they may have to. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: I truly apologize for his behavior. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Masterweaver wrote: And I didn't notice you saying we shouldn't trust him. Masterweaver, in D-Lotus' post it was talking about Rai acting strange, and that they should go to another council member: D-Lotus wrote: "I think perhaps...perhaps we should contact another council member...Kalanna's been acting somewhat strangely of late." Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Masterweaver. Participating in a multi author story is very challenging, especially when the plot starts to get complex. That is why it is so important to keep a check on what has been written before. We will all slip up from time to time, and get it wrong, of course we will, and half the fun of it is patching up other people's slip ups; it can twist the plot in some unexpected ways. But blatently contradicting and not even reading other people's posts, is just disrespectful of their ideas and not contributing to the story well. From what I am reading the participants here are developing some very cool plot ideas and this is promising to be a great adventure! Please read it and make sure you know what is happening. The inclusion of Lecro has really only served to confuse co-authors, and with the plot thickening the way it is, it is best now, I think, to leave him well out of it. I hope you continue to be a part of it... on the same level as the rest of us, because I have seen you write some good stuff. I only ask that you leave Lecro out of it, and make sure you are well aware of everything that has been posted so far. Also thanks Lordofthenight for your supportive post. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Very well. Lecro has agreed to leave at the beggining of chapter three, with the condidtion I remain orange all throughout the chapter. I don't like it much, but it must be done. And stop laughing! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: OK the summary is up - Please let me know if there are any inaccuracies or if there is anything I missed, and I will edit it in. It starts to get more difficult to summize as the story develops! Sorry for leaving it so long (sleep and work got in the way ) but I promise not to hold it up for so long any more. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: You forgot Lecro'as envolvement and my current orangness. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Lecro's gone, and no longer has an involvement. And you didn't read what D and Crunchy wrote did you - they've become seperated, and are now in the City Central. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: They said they were going to the higher-rent area! Right? _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: D-Lotus wrote: Rushing in, he took CF's hand and managed to pull him back to the sidestreet. D-Lotus noticed that they had left the red disk with the group, and were therefore unable to call Kalanna, who they had completely lost sight of. D-Lotus and Crunchy are both separated from everyone else, and yes, they were going to City Central. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Well they left the group in my post too, so no (major) harm done. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: I beg to differ, Masterweaver. There was no such mention in your post! It took 4 posts to sort that little lot out, including the introduction of dopplegangers by your good self afterwards! Please read other people's stuff properly, before posting! OK, I had to do some serious editing to my latest post because I missed something in Xansta's ... (if you had read it before reading this, it might be worth reading again ) but now the real D and Crunchyfrog are heading through the foggy residential area towards City Central, there are no dopplegangers any more, and the rest of the group are in the Open Forum. (Well, MW and Xansta are still heading back there) New plot twists since, include the revelation that Sasuke is a half breed dragon, the Idearium miners are not a happy lot, and there is a rampaging mob on its way to the Mayoral Mansion. Which is also located somewhere in City Central. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Actually, it is located in the southern city, which is admitidly the same area as City central. On palace road. I suppose it could be considered part of city central though... (I'm basing this off my hommade map in the IFki.) _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard Idea Master and also a belated welcome Lebrenth! It's great to see more people joining in this, and so many intriguing ideas developing. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Just dodge the plot devices, and you should be fine. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Masterweaver, how can you be holding a conversation with IM, when IM is in a sidestreet with Crunchy and D, and MW, Xansta have headed back to the main part of the Open Forum to the rest? And we were there to tell somebody other than Rai that the map was a phony. Dont you read anything? Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: I read and mistranslated. I'm sorry. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: ...Lecro CLEARLY got involved again. Either you contain him or I'll lock him into the games forum for all eternity. I'm a mod, I can do that. Anyway! D and Crunchy have told another mod of their epic quest, and now it's evolved from 'tell a mod about the false map' to 'find Key, since he sat on his com-orb.' _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: well another big plot twist if I do say so myself and its all thanks to rai and myself, and I do like the the IM twist as well but just don't shoot me guys Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Did you READ the note? One last twitch before he left. We're only seeing it just now... _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: What the hell is that supposed to mean? Anyway, about the Sasuke plot twist. I'm hardly old enough to be having children, but I guess its all right. I wish you'd consulted me, though. I don't want any mushy reunion, btw. This also implies that my wife is or was a dragon. I might rebuke you- we'll see what happens. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: sorry D I just presumed that you would be being a private investigator and all and no big reunion thing I never planned one in the first place but I can edit my post and make up a name Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Idea master wrote: ...Lecro CLEARLY got involved again. Either you contain him or I'll lock him into the games forum for all eternity. I'm a mod, I can do that. Anyway! D and Crunchy have told another mod of their epic quest, and now it's evolved from 'tell a mod about the false map' to 'find Key, since he sat on his com-orb.' Masterweaver wrote: Did you READ the note? One last twitch before he left. We're only seeing it just now... Masterweaver. You agreed that Lecro would have no further involvement in this story. The reasons for myself and others asking for you to withdraw him were made clear. Whether or not he left a threat in the cell is irrelevant. I am publically requesting that any future posts by you involving Lecro be deleted immediately. I am also requesting that such posts involving Lecro be completely ignored by all other participants until they are deleted. If you are unable to control yourself in the Hangover story, or are unable to comply with this request, I would strongly suggest you withdraw posting from it completely. Ref the other comments here - I have not yet had time to read the details of Masterweaver's post and those subsequent to it, but will do later today. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Okay. Having looked at the last few posts of the story, and as the topic starter of the Hangover, I've made the following decisions. Masterweaver. You are clearly not taking any notice of the plot, and it appears that you are only interested in letting Lecro loose on the story. I started this story as an experiment, hoping that if it was consistently written well enough by all co-authors acting independently and as a team, it might get to Jester Park on that merit alone. YOU HAVE SINGLE HANDEDLY RUINED THAT POSSIBILITY, and I am not going to elaborate on my feelings about that here. Therefore, Masterweaver, I have now requested that any future posts from you containing Lecro, in any of his guises, or any of his plot devices or legacies are deleted. If you cannot stop posting about Lecro, his plot devices and his legacy, then I WILL ask you to withdraw completely from the Hangover story. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. D-Lotus - If you feel uncomfortable with being a part of Sasuke's heritage, I am sure you will be able to find a clever way of writing around it... The image of the Lotus flower might mean something else.... something that might be even more awesome for him, and something that may be really important to the plot.... In future, if anyone is going to write something that is likely to affect the history and bio of another author's character, it is best to PM them first. For example, I got inspired with an idea that Xansta might have been a soulless IFian, who has returned from the Well. I have not written it into the plot, but I have PM'd him asking if it is OK for me to do that, (waiting for him to read it still) The most I have done is have D theorize about it in the story, not actually say it is true. Participating in a storygame like this is more difficult than it appears. To have built a story like this by just bouncing off one another's posts and keeping the continuity as stable as this the way we have done up to now is amazing. The intrigue in this story and suspense is building now. We're doing really well. This is turning into a good one. Let's keep going!!! Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: YOu meant entirly? As in leave without saying goodbye? Oh. Ooops.... PLEASE DON'T KILL ME! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Masterweaver, Take a read through a large section of the Hangover story. Get the feel for what the different authors are developing in their plots, and how they are starting to twist them together into a story. Then look at what you are doing. Your Lecro posts are the metaphorical stupid child jumping all over and destroying an elaborate sandsculpture his friends are trying to make on the beach. If you want to help make that beautiful sculpture, then keep contributing, by all means. If not, then leave. Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: 100 posts on The Hangover Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: lol!!! Welcome aboard Jezsharp, and also Lordofthenight! (at last, I wondered when you were going to post!) Okay, my plot has culminated now. Which is this: At the beginning of the story my character observed a strange foggy smoke hanging over the city, after the New Year party, and that something was 'not quite right'. Having woven ideas together laid down by various people during the course of the story the fog is now this: It contains anything up to all 16,000 exorcised souls, which have escaped from the Soul Well, and returned to the City, to play havoc by suggesting to hapless IFians that Chinaren is evil and will kill them all at a whim. (And they probably have a point, since it was he that cast them into the well in the first place!) The chemical makeup of this fog is not confirmed but has been theorized by Masterweavers character that it might be a very unstable gaseous combination of Idearium and Stupidium. We dont know how or why it got there, I am leaving it up to the others to decide whether it is a symptom of either BS's plotting or Lordofthenight's plotting. But please, dont let anyone suck it up or destroy it yet until we know who did it, it'd just ruin the suspense! This is serious stuff, and central to the plot, so it can't just be dealt with by opening a portal, or whatever. I think once more plots start to culminate, then we can really start tying the whole thing together. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Polokin wrote: 100 posts on The Hangover And over 1000 views!!! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: I think some things are starting to be resolved too quickly. For instance, the idea of a mutated Fauna was brought in, and then found they couldn't hurt her. However, it was just one post later the group had realised this, formulated a plan, carried out the entire plan, and then started onto the next problem. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Lordy, look on the bright side. We're out of 'shrooms. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Well, although Sasuke resolved it rather quickly, you'll admit it was cleverly done, using our spare resources effectively. The Hangover has now easily become the fastest growing thread in the site, and one of the most popular ones (if not the most popular). I think that if this story should be submitted to the Review Board, it could be passed sheerly by its immense popularity. After all, this site should also be about growing and experimentation. In my opinion, the slightly less perfected posts within the Hangover are inconsequential due to the potential of the experiment. Perhaps, then, The Hov could be submitted for review. Or maybe the members of this experiment would prefer to wait for everyone's post quality to increase? Maybe we could use this thread for a votation? Also- Masterweaver, your last post did not include Lecro, but it was off the bat. Please make some sense, or there will be less probability of passing the board. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Lordofthenight wrote: I think some things are starting to be resolved too quickly. For instance, the idea of a mutated Fauna was brought in, and then found they couldn't hurt her. However, it was just one post later the group had realised this, formulated a plan, carried out the entire plan, and then started onto the next problem. I agree with Lordy on his point... I've seen it happen a few times, and it stops suspenseful situations being allowed to develop. But that is what this thread is here for. If you post something and want to allow it to develop a bit without someone exerting their powers the next minute and saving the day in a flash, then post here and say so. You dont need to reveal everything about your intended plot, but it helps your co-authors understand if you give a few hints to help them slot their plots in with yours. This story is now at a stage where most people have more or less developed their plans. It is best to be flexible, and adapt your plans, though, because you never know what others have in store. The beauty of doing something like this is you never know the full outcome... D-Lotus wrote: The Hov could be submitted for review. Or maybe the members of this experiment would prefer to wait for everyone's post quality to increase? Maybe we could use this thread for a votation? I think using this thread for a poll is an excellent idea. I am still tentative about submitting for review just yet, at least in this very raw format. I think a few rules still need to be formulated to encourage a consistently high quality of posting, and to prevent problems with plot clashes. Still having a think about how to do that. The last place I want the Hangover to end up though is in Games. If that happens, I will consider it to have been completely misunderstood, and it will have failed as an experimental storygame. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:30 am    Post subject: D-Lotus wrote: Also- Masterweaver, your last post did not include Lecro, but it was off the bat. Please make some sense, or there will be less probability of passing the board. Masterweaver. I have just read your post and I agree with D-Lotus. Please can you explain what your plot is here, and how you think it will fit in with the rest of the story, and I'll be happy to help with the quality of your contributions. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: I was trying to figure out some way to send some Idearium to earth. Never leave a bored peice of cloth alone. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Not all storygames have to completely follow the 'correct' guidelines. Look at Power's 'Dear Dotty' which had no polls at all, and simply had Dotty answering the reader's 'letters'. As an idea to bring it to a nice, readable standard - one person could pierce together an actual chapter from this (or rather, I think it's four chapters by now). Edit out the parts that we agree don't make sense, remove blaring continuity errors. Remove Lecro full- stop - that sort of thing. Currently I expect the story would fail the review, purely due to various spelling errors and the like. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Not my fault on the spelling! Everybody seems to pin leq to me, so I will neither deny nor confirm it. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Yes, but think about it, this thread is one of the most popular in the site. It is definately not a new storygame, I think it deserves better. I mean, we're just asking for a spot under the normal forum, which isn't so much to ask. Of course, another option would be to purchase a forum... _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:06 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard Din! I'm working on a summary right now, and will get it up some time this weekend so you wont have to go trawling through the whole thread. One of the rules of contribution is to keep posts to around 250 words or less, so that co-authors can keep up quickly. But since this is your initial post so far into the story, that's ok!!! * * * Lordy, if spelling is the only thing that is keeping this from being submitted and moved, then let's all get it sorted. How is this best done? Do we just all go back and edit our own posts? Or does someone with editing rights go through the entire thread? I will read through and alert you of some of the more ridiculous continuity stuff that might need editing, although most of it has been handled 'in story' already, so if you remove the 'stupid post', you would also have to edit the 'patch up' post. I will name the chapters at the summary points, too, if that helps. As for buying a forum - I dont have that sort of money, let alone the 300F fine that I will get if this doesn't pass the review board. So it's just stuck here, I guess... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Another thing which I think is very important now, important enough to put in a seperate post: We all need to be hinting a little more about what one another are doing. This is NOT an RPG, and some of us are kind of playing it like one. Look back at some of your co-author's posts. For example, way back, Kalanna mentioned there was something in her hoard, she kept checking back on. It's obviously still there. What might it be? Lordofthenight wants D and two others for test subjects. What for? And what is it that Kalanna is so worried about that D might remember something, that she just doesn't want to have anything to do with? This discussion thread, was set up for that purpose. For example: I know that Polokin and BS are out hunting for D, for their own reasons. Kalanna is also out hunting for D for her reasons. The authors should be trading hints, either here or by PM - I am not aware of what either party has in store for D plotwise, but what might happen if the two join forces? What might happen if they decide to fight over D? If hints are traded here, it also helps the rest of the co-authors, as we weave our plots around the whole story. It looks very much to me that D-Lotus is emerging in the central 'hero' role - it is definite that BS is a baddie, and it is looking increasingly like Lordy and Kalanna are up to no good also. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Ohhh.... I, though intelligent, am still new. I have no history with the city, so I'm just pointing things out. Also, I seem to be subject to quite a few delusions of ever-increasing magnitude... _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Lebrenth Honored Citizen Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1484 Location: Utah Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: Crunchy Frog has been working very hard on this and hasn't been making any Fables for it. I'm donating 100 Fables to him and encourage others to do the same so that he can afford a review. Well Done CF Edit: Wait, first one's free, yeah? Oh well, have some Fables anyway. _________________ Please visit my Library of completed works. Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: First time Authors still get their First storygame for free. Therefore don't need to donate 500F. However, if their Review fails, they will need to donate 300F each time it fails for the admin costs. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: Well, I guess I might pose the question here. BS mentioned a while back that D-Lotus had some sort of 'powers', and somebody else mentioned it later as well. I tried to expand on this by having IM mention it in one of my posts. D (the character) doesn't remember any of this, though. But as he slowly begins remembering things, he also begins developing skills. So far, D has remembered his old reflexes, especially at shooting, and he has also recovered his 'spider senses', which I called 'sleuth sense'. He has a sixth sense with which he can detect foraneous carachters following him, etc. But other than that, I'm not sure what else. There has to be something in those powers that is making him a target? What is it that D has that everyone is afraid/wants to get rid of him? Any ideas? _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Not pyeokenisis. Xansta's got that already. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Summary is up - please let me know of any inaccuracies, or if anything important or any character has been missed out, and I will edit it in. Thanks! Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: The only characters I could see that were missing were me and BS, but apart from that, nice summary Edit: What I meant was, that in the second part of the summary, when you talked about who's where, we wern't mentioned. Last edited by Polokin on Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:33 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: *checks back* You are both there, Polokin, in para 7, the one that starts 'D is suffering from amnesia' - it also talks about your hidden item in your pocket. I've actually edited some more bits into it, that I missed - the fact that Kalanna has IM's book of spells, Din has been dealing with some interesting stuff in Jester Park for the last 10 hours, and that IM's initial reaction to D's revelations was to go and find Key. There's tons of detail laid down in the story, and I dont necessarily know what is significant and what is not, so if there's anything else that anyone thinks should be made more prominent in the summary, please let me know! Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:43 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard Smudger!!! I dont know how close behind Kalanna and Dinranwen your character might have been, but I am hoping that your character might have witnessed something. About killing co-authors characters - I dont know whether Kalanna and Din collaborated Din's demise, but it brings up a good point: If you think another co-author's character's death will be pivotal to the plot, please ask that co-author's permission before killing their character off. OK since there have been two rather significant plot twists, involving the map and the Realm of Dead IFians, another summary has gone up. It's completely rewritten so please check through it and make sure it is accurate, and nothing important to the plot, or any characters have been left out. There is a lot to track, here! Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Has everybody forgotten about me? Somebody, please, take the role of the armored figure! _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: No, my 'death' was quite unexpected for me, but I figured I could use it to my advantage. Thus I am now in the company of well known figures, albiet dead, and I am in a stargetic position beneath the Soul Well, if I choose to use it. Which begs the question: Just how will I get back to life? And what will happen when and If I do? In the meantime, what will I learn about the souls who inhabit the wells? That is for me to know and you to find out, but I up for suggestions in case anybody has any. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: I think yours is an excellent position, and an excellent plot twist, Din! I had drawn a blank for ideas for a few days until I saw that, and now my head is spinning with them again. Including an idea for Masterweaver's armour clad friend.... dont worry MW, he is not forgotton.... Back to top Author Smudger Citizen Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 382 Location: Writers Block R Us Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: re Thank you for the welcome Crunchy, glad to be in such an innovative idea . I'll see what comes to me in writing my next installment whether to say I saw Rai or not, or go help Din, either way. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Ok Rai...a number of problems: 1) I'd already left the Technical Institute, and was in Tourist Info - I was not typing or viewing anything but releasing Lebby at the time. 2) I would love to know how scanned software can have 'magical enchantments' and how such enchantments can systematically affect all individual door passwords which are not connected to the main computer. This seems mildly ridiculous...also considering the map was actually in the TI when you last burst into the Tourist Info booth it's surprising the crystal didn't go off then! (And I could quite easily have accepted such a tracking device being on your person - that could locate the origional map, or even some enchnatment that perhaps that the map itself went blank if its unauthorised use was happening). I also find it hard to accept that scanned copies of a map can be 'enchanted' and then used to affect the running of a computer system!! This is moving to the point of madness...unless you're claiming that you now suddenly have the power to rule over and close down other moderators sectors Rai? 3) Following on from 2) the doors should not then be open and are impenetrable in this case that does mean dragon/thief assassin proof, as I had you in mind. You cannot have entered the Technical Institute, I can accept that the origional map when used may have left an enchanted trail that your device could pick up (althougth why did it not notice it when you last visited?). I can also accept you 'rescuing' Lebby althougth he was being released anyway by me at the time you arrived. As you can tell I'm perhaps a little annoyed, it seems as though you are God - modding a lot of the story as an invinicble dragon who no - one can stop in any way possible and who must win in nearly any scenario. I admit to God - modding to a degree, most RP players do - but yours is more than a little excessive at times. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: JezSharp wrote: 1) I'd already left the Technical Institute, and was in Tourist Info - I was not typing or viewing anything but releasing Lebby at the time. Yes, that could be a problem. It could probably be fixed with some simple editting on Rai's part though. Quote: 2) I would love to know how scanned software can have 'magical enchantments' and how such enchantments can systematically affect all individual door passwords which are not connected to the main computer. This seems mildly ridiculous...also considering the map was actually in the TI when you last burst into the Tourist Info booth it's surprising the crystal didn't go off then! (And I could quite easily have accepted such a tracking device being on your person - that could locate the origional map, or even some enchnatment that perhaps that the map itself went blank if its unauthorised use was happening). I also find it hard to accept that scanned copies of a map can be 'enchanted' and then used to affect the running of a computer system!! This is moving to the point of madness...unless you're claiming that you now suddenly have the power to rule over and close down other moderators sectors Rai? I must admit, it is unlikely that Jez scanning his version of the map would alert you Rai, or that you'd be able to go through TI/IT. Of course, some people may have moderator power over other moderator's sectors, but I don't believe you are one of them. The trouble is Jez, was there anyone else who knew of your plan? The way we've been doing it - Rai and I - is to let Crunchy (as the original author) know what we've been planning throughout, and how it's working. If you had spoken to her, some of the confusion could have been avoided. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Quote: This will hopefully please him, as BStheGreat has a long time grudge against him he wishes to settle, and, assisted by Polokin, is hunting for him. D-Lotus cannot for the life of him remember why. This, and some subsequent parts of the summary are somewhat disconnected or unclear. They concern D and his memories, mostly. Some of the 'he doesn't remember' are placed after the "D then remembered after his second concussion..." You should also clear that now I have remembered the secret, presumably Lordy's plot, but that I'm struggling to regain consciousness. I trust that you'll figure out what's wrong. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Besides the grammar not agreeing with itself, I know perfectly what's wrong. D has a rum deficiency. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: I'm not sure I ever had a specific plan...I took the map to see what locations were on it and spotted the location of the underground archives so tunnelled for them. I then had the idea of handing out the edited copies of the maps to some people...but I may change that to sending the full copy by PM to Council members. Besides that I don't really have any plans besides those. Anyway I have an idea of how to fix things. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: D-Lotus wrote: Quote: This will hopefully please him, as BStheGreat has a long time grudge against him he wishes to settle, and, assisted by Polokin, is hunting for him. D-Lotus cannot for the life of him remember why. This, and some subsequent parts of the summary are somewhat disconnected or unclear. They concern D and his memories, mostly. Some of the 'he doesn't remember' are placed after the "D then remembered after his second concussion..." You should also clear that now I have remembered the secret, presumably Lordy's plot, but that I'm struggling to regain consciousness. I trust that you'll figure out what's wrong. Thanks for pointing that out, D, I'll fix it later today. A few points that I'd like to make: 1. About Uber characters, Uber behaviour and God Modding.... One of the few rules I put up about Hangover was that there were to be no uber characters. That includes uber behaviour and god modding. The Kalanna character is bordering on Uber, and I agree with Jez with his comments about god modding. Kalanna, I am well aware of your plans, ideas, and how you want to execute them, but having your character using uber behaviour to restrict others in their attempts to develop their own ideas is not fair on anybody, and is the quickest way I know of losing contributors. Please allow others to write freely, and let them strengthen their characters positions in the story. 2. Sharing plot ideas This discussion thread was started so that plot ideas could be pushed around.We should be working together as co-authors. Use PM if you have to, and use this thread. It's what it is here for. If somebody's plans are less developed, sharing plot ideas could help them crystalize theirs, especially in these later stages, when so much has been laid down in the story already. Making me aware of your plans does not validate them - all it does is help me understand the bigger picture when I am doing the summary, and help me sort things out if lack of continuity and confusion break out. I do not use that knowledge when I write, I only write for the good of the story. If someone posts a plot twist that is unexpected to your plans, it is better to modify your plot, rather than thwart the plot twist. That is how the story moves in unexpected ways. 3. Please use this thread for hints on your intentions. For example, I announced that I had realised my plot intention by having the fog as a manifestation of the souls. I made it clear that I didn't want someone opening a portal and just blowing it away. IM could state here that he doesn't want his book to be reconstituted, and that Kalanna's reconstitution efforts should fail. Use this thread wisely!!! 4. Generally The story has moved beyond the introductory stage, and has now almost got to the climax of complete anarchy and chaos in IF. I would put it at nearly half way through its life now. I think there is another climax to come - despair, when the evil parties almost attain their goal, whatever that might be. And then a finale. Anyone is welcome to comment on how the rest of the story would be structured. And finally... THIS IS NOT AN RPG!!!! I know it is very easy to play it like one, but I dont want it to degenerate into something like that. This is why I am working on the summaries, so we can look back at the plots that are woven, and continue to write the rest of this story as co-authors. So let's try and turn this into something unique! Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Not only is the book not going to reconstitute in the sense that many of the spell will be garbled and spell doom to the person that tries to read them, but so is my replacing of the book going to fail in a very interesting way. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Ok, currently my plot is going to centre around the digging into the underground archives, whereby I may well come across some (almost certainly incomplete and possibly cryptic) information on the place that Lordy has marked on the map. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: D-Lotus wrote: Quote: This will hopefully please him, as BStheGreat has a long time grudge against him he wishes to settle, and, assisted by Polokin, is hunting for him. D-Lotus cannot for the life of him remember why. This, and some subsequent parts of the summary are somewhat disconnected or unclear. They concern D and his memories, mostly. Some of the 'he doesn't remember' are placed after the "D then remembered after his second concussion..." You should also clear that now I have remembered the secret, presumably Lordy's plot, but that I'm struggling to regain consciousness. I trust that you'll figure out what's wrong. Susbstantially edited now, moved a lot of stuff about, and cleaned up the tenses too. Probably a bit overdue, its a bit out of date, as so many more ideas and twists have gone down since... but I hope it reads a little more coherently now! Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Okay... My latest plot is - how the fog escaped in the first place. Weeeelllll, what a stupid idea to build a Soul Well near a Gorge, which obviously has to be a geological fault line! With so many burrows and warrens having been dug underneath the city, this fog must have found a few outlets somewhere, which is why the fog containing the souls is hanging mostly over the city and nowhere else, and my theory is, the structure of the well, with all that Soul Power in it, just can't take it. Of course this can be exploited like anything by those who wish to take over the city It would be really cool if whatever info Jez finds in the archives is info on the fault line, where the weaknesses are, etc. I thought the conversation between Lebby and D-Lotus was very good, and am intrigued as to who D might think he has murdered. Chinaren has disappeared... Hmmmm.... Perhaps by controlled releasing of the fog into the city via the faults is releasing pressure on the Soul Well to prevent it from blowing big time. So this could have been done by D for the good of the City... Perhaps the flash of lightning just after Smee's firework display was an explosion of fog from the fault after too much build up of pressure. Or maybe it was the murder... Or maybe the two were linked... Maybe to fix the problem we have to empty the Soul Well and build a new one on a safer site.... ...er maybe I should shush up now... Back to top Author Lebrenth Honored Citizen Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1484 Location: Utah Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Personally, I don't like the fault line idea. Though an explanation of our circumstances, it is an event that is indifferent to its result. If the Soul Well was tapped into recklessly, or if the fault line shifted as a result of some other event, we have more to work with. There is a conspiracy going on, secrets and plots, an investigator, amnesia, an assassin... there must be more than shifting tectonic plates or else we invalidate a lot of story. Perhaps the Soul Well's location was intentional. Maybe someone wanted it to crack open. I could work with that. The fact that it happened on New Year's Day, a strong moment for Brink Magic, seems too much of a coincidence. I would suspect a ritual of some sort for causing chaos. Or we could even make it the Earth protesting the incarceration of the souls within its soil. All right, nevermind. I like the fault line idea. _________________ Please visit my Library of completed works. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Lebrenth wrote: Personally, I don't like the fault line idea. Though an explanation of our circumstances, it is an event that is indifferent to its result. If the Soul Well was tapped into recklessly, or if the fault line shifted as a result of some other event, we have more to work with. There is a conspiracy going on, secrets and plots, an investigator, amnesia, an assassin... there must be more than shifting tectonic plates or else we invalidate a lot of story. Very good point... I'll go with that... Quote: Perhaps the Soul Well's location was intentional. Maybe someone wanted it to crack open. I could work with that. cool! Quote: The fact that it happened on New Year's Day, a strong moment for Brink Magic, seems too much of a coincidence. I would suspect a ritual of some sort for causing chaos. Or we could even make it the Earth protesting the incarceration of the souls within its soil. It could also be that the New Year party might have been the perfect cover up (Smee's fireworks) for cracking it open. The fact that the 'flash of lightning' happened a little after the climax of the firework display could have been the synchronisation of the cover up going a little wrong. Kalanna makes reference to it in one of her posts very early on in the story. Quote: All right, nevermind. I like the fault line idea. ....So do I...but now in your idea, as a result of the conspiritor event! Shall we go with yours? Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: I say that someone either A: Planned the soul well's location intentionally so as to take advantage of it latter, or B.) Someone in ritual dance made the fault lines crack open....and in the same moment took control of the souls for their own uses.... Or Both A and B....either way would work. Some other problem's I noticed that need to be worked out.... One who did D murder? And why? Who is controlling the Spirits of the Soul Well? Who created/planned/used the fault lines to their advantage? And why are the souls rebelling against Chinaren if they are not doing so out of their own will? Is someone in the city planning Chinaren's overthrow or planning to take over the city themselves? If so who? Is the murder of someone conneted to the opening of the soul well or are they unconnected? Obviously, so far Lebby, Lordy, Rai, Jez are all bad guys...sort of. But what are they planning and why? And who exactly is working for who? Whatever the answers, I think one of Idea Master's post says it all. Someone has playing everyone the fool, but who, and for what purpose? Back to top Author Smudger Citizen Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 382 Location: Writers Block R Us Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: re Since I wasn't here from the start I have no clue what my role is... Just sorta in it. Maybe I control the Soul Well, a low profile, non-descript character that no one would have ever thought of having that power. There's a solution. if you disagree then just say so, just a suggestion. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: I don't like the fault idea either, mainly because 'x' and me have worked out the conspiracy. According to 'x', he/she released the souls himself/herself to wreak havoc so that he/she could make Chinaren dissapear. More on this later, but for now, if there is a fault, someone set it off. I'm going to read now about D's murder and find out what that's all about... _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Quote: Obviously, so far Lebby, Lordy, Rai, Jez are all bad guys...sort of. But what are they planning and why? And who exactly is working for who? Me? A bad guy? Nonesense - I'm merely working for the good of the City, trying to bring order to the current Chaos. That's all. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard, Solus.Serpens!! I'm trying to pull together another summary, and it's hard work with everything that's been going on. I may need to PM some people for clarification on a few things, so I can get the story straight for the next summary. I've loved reading it over the last couple of days, great to see some of the questions being resolved, and the way it is all moving on... Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Quote: Chinaren has disappeared... Hmmmm.... Hello all. Please don't try and explain my absense from IF in HO. An explanation will be forthecoming soon, in Tale of IF, part II. So far I am not convinced this isn't a RP as it stands. However, if Crunchy takes a little more control I think it could pass muster. I will keep an eye on this one! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author solus.serpen Respected Citizen Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Good to see you back, china. I'm afraid I'm probably one of the ones who is writing this as an RPG, but I don't really get how else to write it. Can anyone help me there? ~Solus _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image chapter 6 of DESTINY - a super old SG which won't continue...but there are a full 6 chapters if you feel like reading something with no ending! Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Solus, Here are a few pointers: And perhaps this is probably a good reminder for everyone who's participating... Even though we've all introduced our own characters, we are co-authoring a story. Every so often, I am posting a summary of the story so far. What you do is read the summary, and then post from there. We should be thinking ahead, and discussing plots. That is what this thread was created for, although it hasn't really been used to its fullest potential. From now on I think we should really try and make it work. Write in terms of the story, not in terms of your character. Try and make the story flow from post to post, where possible. Up to now, it has been very disjointed, with everyone following their own storyline. If you want to write something that is going to affect someone elses character, discuss it here, or discuss it by PM with that co-author. We need to dis-associate ourselves as authors from our characters more. What we know as authors, our characters may not know. For example, if someone writes that a single house falls down on one side of the city, and your character is on the other side of the city, he/she has not heard it happen, and cannot react to it. You cannot have him say 'Oh, I cannot go to that house, because it has fallen down.' He would have to go there and discover it. The Hangover has gone past its mid point now. The pieces of the puzzle in this story are starting to be put together now. We dont need any more riddles. We need solutions now. For example, the big puzzle is what happened during the New Year Party. Gradually things are coming into place. The next summary I put up will have some of those pieces in place. Edit to add The summary is now up!!! Please read it carefully, to make sure it is correct. Now that some revelations have been made, it is drastically rewritten!!! Since so many stories happened simultaneously, I have had to write chronologically by character. I hope it makes sense and reads well. I am open to suggestions on how to make it read better. Please let me know if anything important or anyone has been left out. Thanks!! Another Edit In order to get Hangover ship shape for the Review board, it needs some heavy editing, particularly the earlier posts. I'll need some help in doing that... I have already divided it up into chapters, and edited in the chapter headings at the summary points. They are... 1. The Labyrinth and the Well 2. Mayhem in Jester Park 3. Fog, Conspiracy and a Search for Key 4. Assassination, Domination, and Sado-Masochism 5. Revelations and Alliances We are embarking on Chapter 6 now. Back to top Author Lebrenth Honored Citizen Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1484 Location: Utah Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Quote: If you want to write something that is going to affect someone elses character, discuss it here, or discuss it by PM with that co-author. There's the problem right there. We can't co-write a story if we're not allowed to use other characters except in a very conservative manner. Even you, Crunch, are treading very carefully when writing other characters; too carefully to get anything done with any but your own character. I don't think anyone has written a segment that didn't have more to do with their own character than with others. However, the individual character involvement has generally improved and advanced the story. The challenge is making your own character a key part of the story. That element is quite fun and though I very much want to help you accomplish your goal of making this a storygame, I'm loath to abandon the enjoyment of squeezing my character into the action. It's up to you Crunch. If you really want this to be a storygame, it's like Chinaren says. You have to take control. I don't think you need to or should, but here's how you could do it: Set up a poll. Take a few implied suggestions from the story and vote on it. Whatever is voted upon is the guideline which all future authors must follow or their story segment is invalid and will be removed or edited. Then we have a storygame with co-authoring. Even people who aren't writing chapters could be involved by voting, making it mass-media capable, which is the main requirement of a storygame. Here's a sample poll: What is discovered at the city council meeting? A. A conspiracy of high ranking IFians have been attempting to activate the Soul Well to stop a great evil from being summoned. B. The Soul Well's location was foolishly placed over a dangerous fault line or unstable region. The conspirators are trying to cover up the blunder. C. Chinaren's tyranny has gone too far, especially his recklessness with the Soul Well, and a reckoning has begun. D. A simple series of disasters, unrelated to the direct actions of anyone, have put the city into chaos. Only by resolving their differences will the IFians be able to undo the considerable harm to the city and bring it back to its former glory. Then Crunch mediates the results and makes sure the future writers conform to the parameters. _________________ Please visit my Library of completed works. Back to top Author Lebrenth Honored Citizen Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1484 Location: Utah Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Oh yeah, and I thought I should point out a continuity error: Rave and Wing were specifically seen in the Dream Chamber. The Dream Chamber was created, it would seem, for IFians that were inactive but were not exorcised, hence not really dead because they may yet return. Later, Rave and Wing are seen in the Realm of Dead IFians which is decidedly a different place than the Dream Chamber, even if they're both explanations of what happens to inactive members. Are they both in two different places at the same time? Perhaps that can be arranged. It should at least be addressed, perhaps simply omitted from being mentioned in the Dream Chamber. Another possible explanation, the bodies are in the Dream Chamber, the spirits in the realm of Dead IFians. Hmmmm..... _________________ Please visit my Library of completed works. Back to top Author solus.serpen Respected Citizen Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Couldn't have said it better myself, Leb. Anyway, as regards to editing, is it going to be volunteers, one on each chapter? If so, I'll do chapter five, but I think it would be better if we had more than one person to a chapter. Two would be a good number so that they could compare their edits and maybe work on different levels. Anyway, I'd appreciate a bit of help considering the length but I'll work on my own if no-one else really wants to help.* ~Solus *Damn selfish of them though, considering this is as much their story as mine, *grumble**grumble*... _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image chapter 6 of DESTINY - a super old SG which won't continue...but there are a full 6 chapters if you feel like reading something with no ending! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: I had offered (earlier, via PM) to work the story together into chapters. If someone else wants to do it instead that's fine with me, though I'm prepared to do it if no-one else is. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Lebrenth, yours is a great idea, and I think it is really the way to move forward, to bring so many story threads together. The reason I suggested discussion was because there are already some developed and complex ideas out there, and they weren't coming out in the open. Also there were kneejerk reactions occuring with suspensful situations not being allowed to develop, which a little open discussion between authors could have helped: for example: 'I want to put your character in this situation, which might not go along with your plans, but this is the reason why I want to do it, so wait it out, play along, there could be a really cool duel at the end, after which your character continues on his way...' But this just hasn't really been happening. Voting would really cut through the crap and move things along - Because I am not used to it I didn't think voting would work for Hangover, but the way you have explained it I can see how it can work, so lets go for it! Apart from the 4 suggestions Lebrenth has for what is discovered at the city council meeting, which are: Quote: A. A conspiracy of high ranking IFians have been attempting to activate the Soul Well to stop a great evil from being summoned. B. The Soul Well's location was foolishly placed over a dangerous fault line or unstable region. The conspirators are trying to cover up the blunder. C. Chinaren's tyranny has gone too far, especially his recklessness with the Soul Well, and a reckoning has begun. D. A simple series of disasters, unrelated to the direct actions of anyone, have put the city into chaos. Only by resolving their differences will the IFians be able to undo the considerable harm to the city and bring it back to its former glory. are there any others that anybody might want to add to the poll? Cleaning up the chapters: Lordy offered to chapterise and clean up by PM about a week ago, and I took him up on his offer. But it is a big job, and may well need more than one person, so thanks Solus for offering also! I will also happily pitch in - I can easily copy and paste into a text editor, edit and PM to a moderator to place the edited text back into the thread. I dont honestly know to what level we should be editing - obviously we're after spelling, grammar, continuity, (Thanks, Lebrenth for pointing out that continuity blooper, I missed that!) but we'll also be editing out the Lecro stuff... I hope! I guess we just need to work out who's going to do it and how best to go about it. Thanks guys for all your suggestions and help on this. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Do you want us to do anything on the quality of the writing? To bring that all up so the same standard, or should we leave it how it is now, with varying levels? _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Another set of options to consider is the D-Lotus factor. Crunchy seemed to suggest to me that D-Lotus should attend the meeting, so I took the hint and decided to make him attend stealthily. He plans, I think, to reveal the foul scheme that's going on. I had hypothesized from what I've gathered in PM's, that Lordy is trying to gain control of the city. He tried getting rid of Chinaren (which accounts for his absence), but Chinaren still survives on some level, trying to help the adventurers- e.g. stealing one of Jez's maps and placing it on Crunchy in order to help them get through the tunnel (he didn't know the map was fake, speculatively). Quote: Please don't try and explain my absense from IF in HO. An explanation will be forthecoming soon, in Tale of IF, part II. Chinaren, we've already incorporated you to the story a long time ago, how can we not explain your absence? I don't think any story should have a hierarchy on what goes on in the city. Anyway, continuing. D-Lotus had been investigating Chinaren's initial disappearance when he stumbled upon Lordy's plot to release the soul well in order to take over the city. This happens after Smee is dragged into the future, and a few minutes later D walks in. D-Lotus sacrificed someone (his son, BS' brother- someone who was coming along with him), to stop Lordy from taking full control of the well. However, this only caused for some 'greater evil' to take control away from Lordy. Lordy then wiped D's memory. Now, Lordy is searching for a way to take control again, allying himself with Rai in order to achieve the ingredients of a powerful spell that will aid him. Rai's true plans I'm unsure of; she seems to have doubtable fidelity, and she also seems to be searching for her own gain. Anyway, the fissure that Lordy created, through which the soul well is being released, must be closed now by Crunchy. D, meanwhile, will reveal the truth to the council (or try to). That's the story up to now. Crunchy will perhaps achieve closing the fissure, but it won't make a difference, because this 'greater evil' has become too powerful. To overcome it, good guys and bad guys must unite powers. How's it sound? That's my hypothesis. So I think that: What will the council think of D's revelation, if he makes it? should also be an important issue at hand. And I'll credit Leb for the idea of a 'greater evil'. Leb also suggested that instead of Lordy having released the well, it was the 'greater evil' who was attempting to do it. D murdered him/her in the middle of his/her spell, and that caused for the soul well to go berzerk. So now everybody has to unite to stop the berzerk soul well. That's another way to look at it. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: I prefer the last part personally, about the 'other' evil having opened the well. Mainly because I wasn't planning on opening it until I had gained control, and the various souls are beginning to get really annoying. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: I enjoy the idea of this plot, although there is only one evil that could possibly be greater than Lordy. Phang, mistress of evil, wierdness, and evil wierdness. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: I agree with D for the larger part. I agree that there is a 'greater evil' but perhaps it is not (as another suggested) Phang, but a representive of Of or worse a citzen of IS, or even gasp....a citzen of If who seclumed to RL and now resides in IS/Of? I also agree that when this 'greater evil' failed, Lordy who perhaps was either copperating with this 'greater evil' or simply took advantage of the 'greater evil's failure, and perhaps also as a result from D's/Smee's Interference lost control of the Souls of the Well...but I do think that he was able to maintain some control...the spirits simply got carried away or something like that. So...I guess I'm saying I agree with D's Logic as far as the plot is concerned. I also agree that Rai seems to be working for herself...after all she usually does. I am also largely working for myself....or rather for my curiosity...(blast it, how many times will I kill myself before I learn?). However, now Jez is claiming that he rather than Chinaren or Lordy (as everyone seems to think) stole the City Map....and that he, Jez that is, planted the fake on Crunchy...which Kalanna then marked up, copied, and gave a copy to Lordy. Jez also seems to have p.m.ed the map to all council members....he also seems to be hinting that he is doing this so the council memembers try to go treasure hunting just before his 'trolls' break through the surface of the Soul Well. Now this is either a serious contrast in plotting, or it can be used to our advantage.... Was JezSharp then planning to let the Soul's loose on the City only to fail and have that power snatched away by Lordy? If so, what is he planning now? And why is he trying to get everyone to be around the Soul Well? Also if Jez did plant the Fake City Map on Crunchy, for what purpose, and why a harmless newbie like CrunchFrog? Another thing I would like to point out...Crunch is dealing with the rest of the Dezins that I let out from the Realm of Dead Ifians in disguise. Crunchy suggested (granted in P.M. form to me...) that from the Souls point of view...the process of the Soul Well sucking dead Souls into the Realm of Dead Ifians has reversed....and that Muabib while watching the news broadcast quickly deduced what has happening (i..e. Someone from the City was controlling the Spirits). Now the Citzens of the Realm of Dead Ifians (that I realised) are out about in the city searching for the one responsible for controlling the other spirits in the form of a Fog. But who is this person? Is it Lordy (maybe)? Or is a servant of the Greater Evil? Or is it Jez? Regardless who it is....will the Souls drag/reveal this person to the City Council and thus interupt the Council Meeting? Din, and perhaps Lebby and D, seem to think they know who is responsible for controlling the Souls around the City in order to take over. Should they reveal this information to the Council? Should D, Din, and Leb since they all seem to know a little something (i.e. by different sources) about what's going on work together to reveal who it is? Or will Din, Leb, and maybe with the exception of D, go blaming the wrong person (Lordy), and have the council go about to prevent Lordy from doing whatever he's doing until they realize a moment to late they have been blaming the wrong person...and that this is actually the plot of the Greater Evil? That the greater Evil planned this whole thing to set the Citzens of If against each other so it could do whatever it wants to do with If (perhaps destroy it or take over it)? I think so. But what do you all think? In regards to the standard/style/quality of writing, we will all write on different levels and it would be nearly impossible to correct that....but I think that's what makes this storygame interesting. However I think some attempt should be made on all post in regards to grammer, spelling, so and so forth. I would volunteer but I'm horrible at that sort of thing. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: I doubt Phang qualifies as the greater evil, and it's unlikely to be anyone from OF. Lordy's connections in OF are well known, while his network of associates within OF's ranks are...well...there. That didn't come out right. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Put your foot in your mouth that time demon. I also agree with the greater evil...maybe an evil twin from an alternate dimension called FI? Or perhaps the soul of the original BS the Great, so evil he was the first banned, now gathering strength from the mass exorcisim and wanting to level IF for his banisment/execution. And of course I'm working for myself. Independant, freelance assassin. Makes more money that way. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: I don't think Phang should be the greater evil...although the thought coursed through me. It has to be something symbolic, like Leb said. I can think of no greater evil than the devil, Satan. So perhaps something to do with the devil- a horned man, or something (maybe Key's minotaur axe-wielders, from The Ram). Well, that's a bad idea, but you get the point. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: I witnessed something in Jester Park before the fire and I aqquired an item which could be a clue of some sort. Last edited by Polokin on Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:51 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: What if the greater evil was some Internet horror...like some evil corporation trying to destroy IF so that they could claim all our Idearium for their advertising execs? _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Cleaning up lordofthenight wrote: Do you want us to do anything on the quality of the writing? To bring that all up so the same standard, or should we leave it how it is now, with varying levels? Difficult one, that. I think each post needs to be edited on a case by case basis. Maybe try and keep the original author's style as much as possible. (EDIT to add) OK I've had a go at editing Chapter 1, concentrating on the worst two offenders and PM'd the edits to you to see what you think. Apologies for the state of your inbox in advance. What is discovered at the Council Meeting I think we're all already agreed that there is some 'Other Evil' at work, threatening the City. Perhaps the poll should be more about what that 'Other Evil' is. I would personally prefer something new and original. Re who cracked open the Well: We have Smee discovering someone cracking open the Well. I am inclined to go with the idea that it is the 'Other Evil' that has done this, as well. Re the Souls lordofthenight wrote: the various souls are beginning to get really annoying. I agree. The Souls bit has got far too complex and needs to be simplified. The original idea was that the users accounts that had been wiped off the database entirely were the souls that had been Exorcised and put into the Soul Well by Chinaren. Naturally, they may feel a little pissed off at being Exorcised. So when the Soul Well got cracked open, and they were released in the form of the fog, they took advantage of their unexpected freedom by whipping the residents of IF into a rioting frenzy against Chinaren, (a ploy that could be used by Lordy later on in the story). Simple as that. Remembering the Dream Chamber continuity blooper that Lebby discovered, and weaving in his suggestion: The Dream Chamber holds the bodies of IFians NOT exorcised, and their spirits reside in the Realm of Dead IFians. This is in case their spirits return, and can be reunited with their bodies.* It is those individuals that Din has met in the Realm and sent back from the Realm into the City, persuading them to go up, in disguise. They currently believe the escaped souls are being controlled, and want to find the person doing it. They are not doing anything at the moment, and it may be simpler if they were not in the city at all. *(The reunification of body and spirit could happen with Dinranwen in the Dream Chamber, right near the very end of the story - Kalanna has already attempted to restore her original form, but has not actually written that she has succeeded, I think a reunification of body and spirit could be very well written ) From the point of view of the Dead IFians (Muaddib and co) It would be reasonable to think that the population of their Realm would gradually be growing, as occasional IFians died and dropped in through the Soul Well, or via other means. I suggested to Din by PM that from the Dead IFians point of view, the cracking open of the Well could have looked like souls being sucked out of their world, having 'gone into reverse'. Ref Chinaren Chinaren has been talked about a lot by characters in the story. They know he is absent, and in the story there is no knowing when he'll be back. We've written the Mass Exorcism and Ceremony of Release into the story as being things he'd done several months before when he was around previously. That has nothing to do with his absence, so that is okay. Chinaren's disappearance began just before New Year's Eve. So in the story it would be quite acceptable for him to have been present at the New Years party, if only for a while. I had suggested to D-Lotus by PM some time ago that Chinaren, knowing more than everyone realised, might have left D a trail of clues in his absence (the map planted on Crunch being the first one) to help him bring Lordy down. We can now substitute Lordy for the Greater Evil in this idea, of course. Whether we run with this idea or not, it can still work without explaining Chinaren's absence, or documenting his return. Ref Jezsharp dinranwen wrote: However, now Jez is claiming that he rather than Chinaren or Lordy (as everyone seems to think) stole the City Map....and that he, Jez that is, planted the fake on Crunchy I think this part has been misunderstood. I'll make it clearer in the summary. Jez stole the REAL map when he took over the TI, and placed a fake in its place. He has been using the REAL map to dig his tunnels. The Fake then got stolen at New Years, and was planted on Crunchyfrog. We still dont know who did that. Jez, when he had finished using the REAL map, copied it, PM'd it to various people, and returned it to the Council Hall. From what I am aware, Jez is looking for information, but I dont know what he wants it for. Maybe Jez could look in here and clarify? Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Quote: Ref Chinaren Chinaren has been talked about a lot by characters in the story. They know he is absent, and in the story there is no knowing when he'll be back. We've written the Mass Exorcism and Ceremony of Release into the story as being things he'd done several months before when he was around previously. That has nothing to do with his absence, so that is okay. Chinaren's disappearance began just before New Year's Eve. So in the story it would be quite acceptable for him to have been present at the New Years party, if only for a while. I had suggested to D-Lotus by PM some time ago that Chinaren, knowing more than everyone realised, might have left D a trail of clues in his absence (the map planted on Crunch being the first one) to help him bring Lordy down. We can now substitute Lordy for the Greater Evil in this idea, of course. Whether we run with this idea or not, it can still work without explaining Chinaren's absence, or documenting his return. It's all slander! I'll sue! I will attempt to make a mention to the party in 'Tale of IF part II', to be released soon. Hopefully I can work my return out too, timing-wise, at some point. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author JezSharp Respected Citizen Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 592 Location: The middle of anywhere... Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:42 am    Post subject: Hmm, yes indeed I am. I was looking for more information as to the place that had been recently added to the Real Map which contained the phrases such as 'important' and 'do not go there'. It was hinted that such a location was added by a greater evil to perhaps snare someone into going there. (I was also hoping to find other scraps of information, but thats not wholly relevent to the plot here). Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Hey!! May I launch into the gaming. I'd love to be part of the disipearance of the king. HAHA. But I am undead so i'd be living in the sole world. where cruchy is currently at. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Hear Hear the CrunchFrog! I think your ideas are great Cruchy! Every last one of them! Oh and why I am at....sorry for the Confusion with the Souls. It's all my fault. *Slaps hand* Bad Din! P.S. Rai's attempt at restoring my form did not succed...as you will see in my next post. Basically, I am able to use the form she helped create temporarily as a sort of cloak....over the form of Brithil (which explains my avatar) and would be more than willing to particpate in a joining of my body and spirit in the Dream Chamber if that's where it is. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: There are lots of great ideas coming out from everyone, and they're being discussed in the open, this is exactly what was needed. Now we know roughly which direction we're all going in. I think we're all pretty much agreed with the idea that there is a 'Greater Evil' at work. And I think we're all fairly happy with the idea that it is the Greater Evil that cracked open the well, and that Smee discovered him/her doing it, tried to foil the attempt and failed, being cast into the future. Soul Well was opened, releasing the fog of souls. The only thing that needs to be worked out in detail now are the events following that - involving D, Lordy, the Greater Evil, BStheGreat, Polokin, a murder/sacrifice, the stealing of the fake map, the planting of the map on Crunchy, and how D and Crunchy came to find themselves on the ledge at the beginning of the story. D has some of that nailed, and the rest will come, I hope, as the story is written. We'll take a look at Crunchy fixing the fissure and how that might tie in with Lordy taking control later. Now, the Council Meeting would serve to reveal some of this story, But..... One thing we have to remember, is that Smee is not present, so he cannot tell his story at the meeting. Also, the only person he told was Ideamaster, and his memory has been wiped. So... We, as authors, know more than our characters do. Ref the cleaning up Lordy and I have cleaned up chapter 1. I am working on chapter 2. Solus, I believe, is looking at chapter 5. Moving forward I would like the Hangover to start again, but slowly. It would be nice (if Kalanna and IM agree) to remove their two posts at the start of the present chapter, and restart it again instead with a detailed description of Jester Park, and the whereabouts of everyone in it. Whoever volunteers to make this post needs to include the following facts: - The sun is rising over a very murky and foggy city, that has been ravaged by rampaging mobs, and warring RPG characters. - Mage Mountain recently exploded, so there are probably pieces of rock littered everywhere. - There was a large forest fire near Jester Park, so probably a lot of it is scorched. - D mentioned a ferris wheel. - Kalanna, at some point in the story, carved a glyph in the ground showing where everyone was supposed to meet. Once that description has been posted, we'll stop again, and talk about how the delegates are gathering. We'll do this for 2 or 3 posts, and then pick up speed again. How does that sound? Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Sounds Good, and I would be more than willing to help with that since I'm in the area with Kalanna. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Okay the next post in Hangover is all yours, Din! Just a description of Jester Park, please, incorporating the visual references mentioned above, and anything else you can think of, and then we'll stop again, and look at the whereabouts of the characters. Back to top Author Lebrenth Honored Citizen Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 1484 Location: Utah Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Quote: - Kalanna, at some point in the story, carved a glyph in the ground showing where everyone was supposed to meet. I also read in one of Kalanna's post that she removed the glyph later, but before the council began to meet. _________________ Please visit my Library of completed works. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: I believe I replaced it in a later post. If not I'll edit it out and put the glyph back. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Quote: ....landing next to her glyph, which she banished..... Lebby was right, it was removed... and I can't see in any of Kalanna's subsequent posts that it was put back... But people are starting to arrive in that area anyway, so it wouldn't matter now whether it had been removed or not. If you want to edit the bit about banishing the glyph Kalanna that's fine, but it's no biggie if you dont want to. (Unless you are planning other reasons for having a glyph there, of course!) Once Dinranwen has posted her description of Jester Park, the next person can deal with the people assembling there. The current locations of everyone who has posted are: Quote: Kalanna and Dinranwen are already at Jester Park. D-Lotus is making his way to the rendezvous point. IdeaMaster is in the vicinity, and can see Kalanna, and Lordofthenight. Polokin is close by. Jezsharp and Solus are travelling via Jez's tunnels. Lebrenth has run off, looking for Lordofthenight. Crunchyfrog is in the Realm of Dead IFians. Sasuke is in the labyrinth, by the pools, at the entrance of the Soul Well. Masterweaver is somewhere in the city. Xansta is in the dungeon of the palace. Smudger is somewhere in the city, dressed in a uniform of some sort. That could be an interesting post in itself... Since Smudger and Jez are furthest away, they might possibly turn up late... D is attending 'stealthily'... so he might not present himself immediately. And I am wondering if Lebby will make it at all, as he is running in the opposite direction looking for Lordy, who turned up just after Lebby ran off! Unless Lordy yells at him of course... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Just an update on preparing Hangover for the Review Board... Chapters 1, 2 and 3 have now been overhauled. Lecro and his legacies have been removed from the story, as have the continuity blooper of there being two D's and two Crunchyfrogs, and the confusion over Sasuke's parentage. This has resulted in over 20 post deletions, and numerous edits to other people's posts to remove their now redundant attempts to control Lecro. Where it has been found, grammar and bad spelling have been corrected, and some passages rewritten to strengthen continuity, whilst preserving the style of the original author as much as possible. Thanks to Lordy for performing the edits and deletions on my behalf. I am now looking at Chapter 4, and Solus is working on Chapter 5. The last two posts after the Chapter 5 summary have been removed, in order to make way for the start of Chapter 6, which will be a description of Jester Park, by Dinranwen, (hopefully!) Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Okay, Hangover is running again! Din has set the scene, I've posted about the various Council members arriving. Next post - get them all together, and when Lordy arrives, let the meeting commence! Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Did we ever decide what this 'greater evil' was? Or are we just going to call it The Greater Evil? _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: I kinda like it actually. Its more symbolic by itself than anything we will be able to come up with. "A shadow, an evil presence greater than any encountered before. The darkness of its laughter consumed the air and immersed everything in a monstrous sulphuric smell." -The Hangover, 2007. btw, your pics for CH 1 aren't showing up for me, Crunch. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Phew, I'm not the only one that can't see them. What were they supposed to look like? Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: I like the idea that nobody knows what it is. I also like the idea that we are still not going to get the whole story at the Council meeting... Only Smee or IM would have been able to have told of the actual opening of the well. Smee disappeared after the spell at Mage Mountain, and IM has no memory. You should be able to see the pics there now in CH1 now. *grumbles at code* They are thumbnails of our avatars. I'm not sure it is going to be the final format, it is just a test. Still fiddling around with it. Any suggestions welcome! Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: If I could just chime in. It may be an idea to actually not find out what/who the Greater Evil is. That way we can work on it in the future. Plus it's always a good idea to leave some things hanging... It's also a good idea not to change things too much. Similar to your favorite series on TV. You know that even though all the crew of the Enterprise have aged 2000years, come the end of the show they will all be back to normal. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Good points, China, and duly noted! All the council members that can make it to the meeting in Jester Park are more or less there, if not in mind, then at least in body. Except for Lordy, if he would like to make his entrance? Then perhaps the revelations can begin... On another note, those who haven't noticed the test thread, please could you take a look, and give your comments? The poll is a bit out of date now, so I really need to know whether you prefer test format 1, (post format, no change to the text, with icons depicting who contributed what) test format 2 (chapterised format, where the text has been pulled around a bit, and extra narrative added to improve flow) or test format 3 (Looks like post format, with icons, but with posts re-ordered, modified, spliced together, and narrative identified by italic text) Whichever one we go with, I will format the first couple of chapters and submit to the review board. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: I can't do it now, but I'll try and get it done later tonight. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Hey there co-authors! I finally got around to reading something new now that I'm back, and I must say this whole thing is very cool. I missed out on seeing it grow. But reading it now, cleaned up, inconsistencies fixed, it's amazing to see this complicated plot come together. Especially with so many co-authors. This whole RP-SG hybrid experiment looks like a lot of fun. I'd love to contribute, but there's so much going on I don't want to throw another monkey-wrench in It looks like the ending it going to be difficult. Building up so many plot lines is easy, tying them all up at the end is another matter. Hopefully I'll think of some way to be helpful. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: I guess. Is it to late to join in on the game... The story is so interesting. That it kept me busy wondering when I can fall into the story. Just want you to know that I think all the pieces you made crunchy is grrrrreattt!! Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: ok I have noticed a strange thing in several people's posts. here's an example of some dialog. Quote: ... which turned out to be the Master Map of IF." "So you stole the map!" Rai shook her head as Polokin emerged from the bushes. "No I didn't. ... you'll notice the line "So you stole the map!" this is being said by Polokin, in response to Rai's line above. However Rai shaking her head in response is written right after the line. This makes it look like Rai said the line while shaking her head as Polokin happened to emerge from the bushes in an unrelated event. It should really read like this. Quote: ... which turned out to be the Master Map of IF." "So you stole the map!" Polokin yelled, emerging from the bushes. Rai shook her head, "No I didn't. ... I've noticed this effect, where a line was followed by a description of someone else reacting to it rather than the person who actually said the line, a lot in this story. Just thought I ought to point it out because it made things confusing for me sometimes. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Yes, that's called bad writing. Be more careful in the future, people (meself included). _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: An official welcome to Chinaren and Christalnightshade, the latest co-authors to jump in! And welcome (in advance, hopefully!) Argonaut! You can jump in any time you want with your character. There is also nothing stopping anyone from narrating without introducing a character, if they prefer, by the way! Thanks for pointing out the writing style deficiency, I have now checked through the Final Version thread for instances of it, and made the corrections where necessary. When I picked up on Solus being able to 'hear' the souls, I thought she'd be a perfect candidate for Crunchyfrog to get a message 'from the other side' through to D. I thought it better to write his story in the style of him 'reporting back', than to introduce a new parallel storyline into the mix. We really should be cutting back on the way we write 'parallel storylines' from every character's point of view now, it will look less like a RPG, and more of a story, and should help tie all the plots together. At least now everyone knows that Crunch has fulfilled his mission, by diverting the seeping soul power down into the Realm of Dead IFians, but that is only a temporary solution, and at the risk of the Realm's very existance. Time is running short! I have also written in the idea talked about earlier in this discussion thread, about reunification of body and soul in the Dream Chamber. Also ref the introduction of new plot twists - we need to limit them now, and if they are introduced, they should be aimed at resolving and explaining stuff. Lost Soul Parasite - that's good, it can be used to explain a lot of stuff, in many ways, and allows for more flexibility. I hope that someone comes up with the development of how it can be erradicated in time, though! Last edited by Crunchyfrog on Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:58 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Quote: An official welcome to Chinaren and Christalnightshade, the latest co-authors to jump in! *bows* Thanks. Ok I have gotten split personaloties from the gas called greater evil. And with it I think that poeple might think that I'm nuts and I have lost my memory... But I need info on Where exactly the council's at? and the orange-hamster-china? I think I might come up with how to destory it... but only with in time... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:05 am    Post subject: The Council meeting is taking place in the middle of Jester Park. That is some distance away from China's mansion. So you may need to do a little editing. The Greater Evil Gas - This is a new plot twist, and so far it seems that the Crady character is the only one that has been affected by it, everyone else being affected by the 'Lost Soul Parasite' idea introduced by Chinaren. Now the gas has been introduced, it needs to be developed to explain where it came from, why it was bottled, and what it was doing in China's mansion. Ideally if it can be linked with something earlier in the story, that would help tie things in. Hope this helps! Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: I thought the lost Soul Parasite could explain a lot of things, but it could easily be explained away, or downgraded to sideline as well if no one liked it. I will try and keep my little interludes a bit seperate, so you can get on with the main plots which, as has been said already, should be worked on with an aim to wrapping at least the main ones up. Doing this can take some time, so you need to start sooner rather than later! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Ah thanks crunchy. That helps a lot. I shall then edit a bit on what i have typed so far. *scurries off to write* EDIT: The middle post was edited...added a trek through the dark silent town of If. Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Well CrunchyFrog, if I can come up with something good I'll try and write some narrative without succumbing to the urge to add myself into the story. This whole experiment has given me a lot of ideas on how to make an SG in this format but keep more control of the story. Being set in IF where anyone can be anything they want really gives people a little too much freedom. Plus having a character in the story that represents you makes it very hard not to write in a role-playing mode. I think that the co-authors need to distance themselves from what their characters want, and think more along the lines of what the story calls for if you want to bring this to a satisfying conclusion. CrunchyFrog has been becoming more and more like a director lately, rather than just one of the co-authors. I think that's a brilliant idea. Since this whole concept is his, he can be a guiding force to keep the story on track and actually headed somewhere. Well that's my two cents, less role-playing more story-telling Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Okay, the Council meeting is winding up, and unless Lordy puts in an appearance, or Jez and Solus have anything to say, they've more or less agreed to go and convince Lordy to join them in fighting against the Greater Evil. Now Crunch has bought a little time, by diverting the soul power towards the Realm of Dead IFians, but at the risk of destroying it. The fog is now just hanging, no longer actively inciting IFians to rebel against Chinaren. A new idea has been introduced - Lost Soul Parasites, which could explain the strange behaviour of some of the councillors - particularly Solus - and we need to develop more what is happening with her. Is it just one soul she's talking to in her head? If so, who, or what is it? Since this is an experimental SG, I would now like to try out a poll. The characters know what they want to do, but not how to go about it. What do they do first? For example, do they split up? Do they go to IM's house? (It has openings to the Dream Chamber and the Realm of Dead IFians, but is currently completely secure, and can only be accessed by IM (No memory, could be interesting!) Do they go in search of Lordy? If so, where? (If Jez, Smudger, Lebrenth, Solus and Lordy still want to add their characters' piece to the Council Meeting, please go ahead, so we get a complete picture from all characters - if they dont want to, that's fine.) Anyway, please post your suggestions below! Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: I think we ought to split up into two teams: one to bring me back to my mansion and get my memory restored, and another to confront Lordy. Once my memory is restored, it's a simple matter of me deactivating the security so that we can charge down the stairwell and see how much power we need to plug the leaks. Another idea: suppose we split into three teams? One to restore my memory, one to confront the evil chancellor, and one to find Smee and hopefully Key? _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: It seems like splitting up is the only option, with so many characters involved. Of course that means we'll have more fragmented narrative jumping between the different teams. Still that could be fixed up in editing IM's mansion is certainly full of useful stuff, and finding Lordy is certainly necessary. However I was under the impression that when the spell to restore Key blew up mage mountain, Smee was shoved back into his time-curse so he'll appear at some time in the future, and Key was sent into the future with him. I suppose there's no reason Key couldn't be sent somewhere else. Also JezSharp seemed to be on the road to finding something powerful that might help with fighting the greater evil. Whatever is in the book "The Treasures of IF" might be important. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: I divided it into two options: Soul well/dream chamber and Lordy. Inside those two categories there is a vast spectra of available options. Argonaut, not sure if your experiment would work as well. After all, it is the spirit of fun and casual adventure that led this experiment. It needed that impulse to get to the serious stage its at now. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: D-Lotus wrote: Argonaut, not sure if your experiment would work as well. After all, it is the spirit of fun and casual adventure that led this experiment. It needed that impulse to get to the serious stage its at now. You may have a valid point D. However, it would hardly be an experiment if I was sure it was going to work we'll need to save our conclusions till after we test the hypothesis. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Well, splitting into 2 teams seems the obvious way to go... and seeing as it has been written in to the story already, we'll save trying out a poll til later. (edit to add:) Okay, they've split up - IM, Din and Smudge are going back to IM's house. The only way they can get in is through the tunnel that takes them past the Dream Chamber. They need to use the gas masks that were left at the end of the tunnel. Ultimately, Din and SMudge can get straight to the Realm of Dead IFians from IM's house. I noticed that Crady had left the bottle of gas rolling around, so Jez is taking it back to the TI to analyse it. That leaves Solus, D, Lebby and Polokin, to find Lordy. All can communicate with each other. Perhaps we could write from the point of view of one group, but with communications coming in from the others at various points, describing their individual journey. That way we could have one focus point, instead of RPG style writing. What does everyone think? Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Quote: I noticed that Crady had left the bottle of gas rolling around, so Jez is taking it back to the TI to analyse it. What is the TI? I'm still not sure where china is and I'll ahve to somehow then get somewhere here. And get rid of he voices inside my head.... maybe it can be that there is souls stuck in there or finger prints of china on the bottle... Still I dont know where i'm exactly going so someoen then just have to help out... then I can type narrative and not only from one point of view... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: A quick overview - China's mansion is somewhere in or near City Central, Jester Park is a different district. The TI is the Tourist Information booth, which I guess is in Info Street (Same area as New Storygames) Think of the layout of the forums. JezSharp is the Tourist Information moderator. Earlier in the story he described having a laboratory there, and an extensive labyrinth of tunnels extending from it, underneath the entire city, which he excavated using the real Master map. A note to Sasuke - The Soul Well has been temporarily stopped up, as per Crunchy's message via Solus earlier, meaning that nobody would be coming out of it. Kalanna has written you in as having been sacrificed - presumably your character is with Crunchy in the Realm of Dead IFians, since there had been a large explosion in the region of the pools. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Chinaren Hall is actually in the Nob District, just off Nob road, not far from the Council Hall. See A Tale of IF and... http://www.cityofif.com/wiki/index.php?title=A_map_of_IF _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: I have just been looking at the main thread. I would like to comment if I may. As Argo has said implied already, this SGame needs to be focused more. Otherwise it will become too much like a RP. I would second Argo's suggestion that Crunch becomes the 'Director'. You could submit your chapters to her for approval before posting. This way Crunch can guide the Story, otherwise it will go off at a random angle, and really will get booted to Games. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Thanks cruncher... mmm... where should i go. I think stroll in info streets and then a bit to the noob castle.... For a but of investigation. at the same time somehow running into the council... somehow... get mxit in the sitaution... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: I'm making a post at the moment. Reason is because it's too difficult to do a summary any more. I'm writing from Din, Smudge and IM's point of view. And I'm going to try and urge everyone else to try and do the same, to at least further their part of the story for a while. Then we can all do a switch... As mentioned before, we can have 'progress reports' coming in from other characters, but we must be wary of introducing any more characters now, except in a cameo role. Lilith was great in helping getting Din and co across Jester safely, but we need to move on now. And yes, Chin, at this late stage it would be a great idea to submit new ideas here, before posting them too. That is what this thread is here for, after all. We should be relying more on discussion and polls now if we are ever going to finish this story. On a separate note: Kalanna has actually just done something very MAJOR with the plot and I have just figured it out, she has linked Crunchyfrog's jump into the well with her ability to find the next ingredient for Lordy's spell for completely opening the well. Remember she pushed Din down a hole to get the 'Blood of the Beginning.' Now she has 'The Flesh of the Present'. That makes two. Lordy said earlier in the story that he needed Three. This increases the suspense level. Lordy is nowhere to be found. What is he doing? Is he in danger, or is he in control? We still dont know for sure what side Kalanna is on, and how badly affected she is by these Soul Parasites or Greater Evil Gas, that Jez is investigating. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:25 am    Post subject: Quote: 'The Flesh of the Present' A pound of fless... quite a good twist... Ok well Before i post. Can i ask who is going with jez. So I might just get an over head view from this... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:37 am    Post subject: Full bodycount: Jez is on his own, travelling towards the TI, probably using his network of underground tunnels. He could even be there by now. Lebby Solus, Polokin and D are together, looking for Lordy. IM, Din and Smudge are together, about to enter IM's mansion from an underground tunnel Kalanna is on her own, in a corridor, somewhere in the city. Lordy is on his own, whereabouts unknown Chin is on his own, in the ruins of his mansion. Crady is on her own, whereabouts unknown Lilith is on her own, in Jester park. Crunchyfrog and Sasuke are in the Realm of Dead IFians. Xansta is in a dungeon somewhere. Masterweaver was last seen somewhere in the Open Forum. I would write from IM, smudge and Din's point of view, though. If you want to write somethiing about Jez, perhaps have him call in on IM's Mod Ring, and have him report something about the Gas. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject: Jipee.. That would be great... in the shadows I'll be listening. I'll be writing.. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: You're getting the idea, Nightshade! And it's a good plot twist, although I'd watch the quality, and keep it from one point of view only. By the way, if your character were on IM's roof, she'd be dead by now. It is highly fortified! Where you have in your post Quote: Suddenly there was a loud crack on the roof and then the mod ring activated, Jez was contacting IM trough means of the ring. Crady stood on the roof she had been following mostly everyone around If, trying to figure her own way to solve her personalty problem. She had not followed Jezz who had carried the bottle, but instead she followed a group just for a bit of action going around. IM froze, "What is it Jez?" Jez voice was sounding inteligent, he had once again found an intresting thing with in the bottle. "IM I found that the gas contians gasses as written on the paper, the half of the bottle is scorched by fire and I found Chinarenn's fingerprints on it" "Then How did Crady get it?" "She maybe wore gloves, but that you'll have to find out some other way IM".... IM head turned one way, and he found a gas bottle stuck into a pipe, If he wasn't contacted he should have gotten the same state as crady... "Jez we have a problem, the gas is planted in here, and probalbly everywhere els"... It might read better as Quote: Before he had a chance to activate the chamber, IM's mod ring began to glow. Glancing down at it, he noticed it was Jez contacting him. IM froze. "What is it, Jez?" "IM, I found that the bottle indeed contains gasses as written on the paper, the half of the bottle is scorched by fire and I found Chinaren's fingerprints on it" "Then How did Crady get it?" "She maybe wore gloves, but that you'll have to find out some other way IM".... IM glanced to his left, and noticed a similar gas bottle stuck into a pipe. Strange he hadn't noticed it before. Luckily for him, it still had the stopper in it. If he wasn't contacted and it had broken, he could have gotten the same state as Crady... "Jez we have a problem. It looks as though a bottle of gas is planted in here. Who knows how many other bottles there are..." "I'll get to analysing the actual gas itself now." came Jez's voice through the mod ring. "Good. You should let D-Lotus know of your findings - and make him aware of this bottle, too. I've got to get back to restoring my memory now. IM out!" Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: Okay, maybe I should have kept up with this thread before posting...but I solemly promise never to do it again. Girl Scout Honor. *yes I was a Girl Scout so don't bash it!* However, I didn't so as a very nauty girl I posted on behalf of IM, Nightshade, and Lilth. IM now has his full memory back and is currently working out a way to deactivate/remove the bottles of the greater evil gas. Din and Smudge are about to go down to rejoin Crunchy and Sausake to help them in the Realm of Dead Ifians. However, just before leaving Din decided to recurit some help for IM, just in case. To that purpose, Nightshade and Lilth are now with IM in his mansion and will hopefully help him out. I hope what I posted wasn't too devasting plot wise and everyone approves...if it is or it needs to be changed, it can easisly be edited to improve it's flow. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Din, Not at all, this is the whole point! The only criticism I would have with the flow is your rewriting of part of the story from the point of view of your character, this is the whole point of getting rid of the RPG style... Quote: Waving at Lilth through her mask, Din or rather Brithil smiled at the demon witch. What had the girl called her again, oh yes 'Mistress of Shadows'. "Mistress of Shadows" Din snorted as they passed through the Dream Chamber with her barely resisting the urge to hurry over and rejoin her familar form. "Hardly. That title belongs to someone much darker than I in If. Shadow Melder, perhaps, even Shadow Twister, but Mistress of Shadows belongs to one who earns her way to Full Shadow Rank Level 1." Bringing back her irrant thoughts, Din watched as IM talked with the computer to let them past security. Then taking the glasses IM handed them, Din looked around for the stair well that computer spoke off. Sure enough there it was. All she had to do was go down it, and in likedy split she be back to her normal self---well what remained of her normal self after that nasty fall that is. However, Din surprised herself by staying. Din didn't know what she was waiting for exactly, but she guessed she was waiting for some indication that IM had regained his memory. Just before IM stepped on the memory pad however, Jez crackled through his mod ring. After a short confornation with the TI mod, Im discovered something shocking. A bottle of Greater Evil Gas...a misterous substance of unknown orgin, make, and purpose, had been planted in his mansion...and probably everywhere else. I would completely get rid of these paragraphs, because these events already have been written in the previous two posts. The rest is new stuff, so that is okay, and pulling in Nightshade and Lilith is okay, I guess. Although it may be a good idea to find out a bit more about the gas before doing something about it - perhaps waiting for Jez to analyze the gas itself would be a good idea. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Right - ho... This is where everybody is at the moment... Kalanna has just picked up all the ingredients needed for Lordy to complete the opening of the well. The third ingredient she has done by cleverly sending a version of herself into the future, and then sacrificing herself to get it. Lordy has disappeared. We dont know where he is. D-Lotus, Solus, Polokin and Lebby are looking for him, to explain that it doesn't matter whether he opens the Soul well or not, the power of the souls are such that the whole thing is unstable and is going to blow anyway, so everyone needs to pull together and fix it. Din and Smudger are on their way down to the Realm of Dead IFians, to find Crunchy and Sasuke, and hopefully find a way of returning Muaddib and co back down there as well. Then Din, Smudge, Crunchy and Sasuke need to journey the correct way to the Dream Chamber to reclaim their bodies. IM has just reclaimed his memory at his mansion, which is in complete fortress mode. He has two new companions, Crady and Lilith. Crady has been subjected to the effects of a bottle of 'greater evil gas'. She is acting weirdly. Jezsharp is in the TI, analysing the gas. He has a book called the 'Treasures of IF'. We dont know what his intentions are with it yet. Chinaren is in the charred remains of his mansion. Various people have been affected in some way by something or other, and are not themselves. Noteably, Kalanna, who is aware of this, and is fighting it. Also, Solus, who can 'hear' the souls in her head, and can be used as a medium by those in the Realm of Dead IFians. Is there a link between this and the Greater Evil Gas? IM has discovered another bottle in his mansion. Maybe there was one in Kalanna's horde? Who knows. We need to try writing this as a story, and less of a RPG. Try not to write just from the point of view of your own character. I have tried to lead by example and not written from the p.o.v. of my character for some time, and tried to encourage others to do the same. As Chinaren said, this is likely to get kicked into games if folks dont 'geddit'. At this point, can everybody give a brief outline of where they think things should be headed next? Some ideas, please, and then we'll have a poll. Then at least we can start writing as a team, and not as individuals. Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Well, one obvious thing that needs to happen is Key needs to get back. I'll head that team with my two newest buddies. D needs to find Lordy, perhaps with Rai's help. She might have some idea as to where is actual lair is. If not, we can lure him out with the ingredients he needs. Din, Smudge, Crunchy, and Sauske need to find a way to plug the holes that are creating this Soul-filled fog. While they're there, they can find the cause of the Soul Parasites. As for Jez and Chinaren, I have no idea. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Well I'm going to try to hook up with Lordy himself, I'll get PMing him about that. Otherwise I'll probably bump into Crunchy since my soul's currently in transit. I've got to wait for time to catch up with myself... Then I've got to get my future self to go claim my body... Maybe this wasn't such a good plan...*laughs* _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: The approriate changes have been made to my previous post. I now await orders. Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: so how are all these plots going to come together? It seems possible that the spell Rai and Lordy have been gathering to control the Well might be useful in fixing it so It won't explode somehow. Perhaps it can be discovered that the release of Greater Evil Gas into the soul fog is what really caused all the rioting. The bottles having been placed around the city to cause chaos and distract people from the problem of the soul well. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Wow - I go offline for a few days and all Hell breaks loose. And I almost mean that literally. I suspect Lordy will be following Rai, as she's the only person who actually knows what he's up to. Or at least, knows more about it than the others, who only know various pieces of the plan. Seeing how Rai has everything I need now, it might be prudent just to take the bits and finish her off, but what sort of reward is that? _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Well, Rai is at the moment technically dead, and D is looking for Lordy, needing to convince him that whatever he does will be futile, due to what he and Lebby have discovered about the power of the souls, i.e., the city is going to go Kabooooommm!!!! if the Soul Well is not fixed.... And we need to be a bit more open now about what we're doing, as we're nearing the end of the story. If we go with Argo's idea that the bottles were strategically placed about the city to fuel the weird personalities and rioting, then we might need some kind of an antidote for those most adversely affected... (Solus, Kalanna, for example) and I'm wondering who might have placed them around the city too! Jez might be the obvious choice to work on the antidote, with his TI lab and his weird potions. We could have some fun with that. With the Dead IFians, Din and co need to draw Muaddib and co back to their Realm, so that they can show Din and co the correct way back to the Dream Chamber. Some normality needs to be restored to the Realm, Muaddib and co can have some role in stabilizing the Soul Well from their end. We also need a physical focal point - a place where the fixing of the Soul Well is all going to happen. It is probably where Lordy will want to be, to complete his spell... but exactly whereabouts should it be? Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Actually even if Lordy is following me around he'd be following my body...so I'm betting that's where he is, probably cursing the fact I sent all his spell componants to myself in the future. Just a note, the whole future thing wasn't what I was planning but thanks Crunchy...I'll run with that. However it's not unlikely that I'll catch up with Key and Smee...infact I've just come up with a rather nice answer to that one involving why there's a copy of me in the future. It all has to do with the explosion that blew Mage Mountain... _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Ah, it was the way I interpreted it, when your character was doing stuff with IFian space/time and then said something about hoping that 'the future me would catch the gem' - I took it to be a copy in the future. Cool - well if you can give a synopsis of your plan, then we all know where we are as we write... we need to start bringing stuff neatly together now. Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Hey all! sorry i havent posted since intro. of my self but its kind of hard to fall in when everybody's brains are turning. anyhoot, um earlier in the discussion thread, someone mentioned the souls that contact solus and im just throwing this out there... what if the greater evil was the one doing this... which means he/she/it has been planning the destruction of if for a long time and now it has a spy through solus... so its almost a step ahead of everyone else and solus doesnt realize that the voice is actually the greater evil.... and that makes the greater evil someone already dead which (1) brings up the topic if it can be stopped/killed/destroyed and (2) narrows down the suspect list. hmmmmmm....... Just throwing it out there! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Well my idea was that when we cast the spell on Mage Mountain a copy of me was slung ahead in time along with Smee and Key. Thus I knew that I was going to die, because I can't be in the same place at the same time, so I was rushing around to gain hold of the igrediants before then. So it's pretty logical that when my future self turns up so will Smee and Key... Any objections? If so I can just go back to plan A: that I'm only in critical condition and I sent the gem ahead in time to a point when I'm fully healed. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: I like Lilith's idea that the Greater Evil is talking to Solus. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's a dead guy. I like the idea that the Greater Evil is not an IFian, maybe not even a person. When D remembered the event that started all this he said he had stabbed the Greater Evil in the heart and it disintegrated, taking some piece of D with it. I believe Chinaren suggested that we don't need to find out why this evil force exists, we just need to do something to stop it. As far as Crunchy's focal point, it would be convenient if there was a little, out of the way place, that just happened to be the center of the converging magical ley-lines of IF. This would be the one place where you could affect all the magic of IF at once. Perhaps it just so happens to be the place marked "important" on the master map. For added convenience they may discover that this is the place where all our time-travelers will appear once the future becomes the present. Of course, it's got to be a place that nobody would ever think of as important Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Quote: Before he had a chance to activate the chamber, IM's mod ring began to glow. Glancing down at it, he noticed it was Jez contacting him. IM froze. "What is it, Jez?" "IM, I found that the bottle indeed contains gasses as written on the paper, the half of the bottle is scorched by fire and I found Chinaren's fingerprints on it" "Then How did Crady get it?" "She maybe wore gloves, but that you'll have to find out some other way IM".... IM glanced to his left, and noticed a similar gas bottle stuck into a pipe. Strange he hadn't noticed it before. Luckily for him, it still had the stopper in it. If he wasn't contacted and it had broken, he could have gotten the same state as Crady... "Jez we have a problem. It looks as though a bottle of gas is planted in here. Who knows how many other bottles there are..." "I'll get to analysing the actual gas itself now." came Jez's voice through the mod ring. "Good. You should let D-Lotus know of your findings - and make him aware of this bottle, too. I've got to get back to restoring my memory now. IM out!" Good. But i guess I'll have to eddit then somehow to get myslef into that place along with lillth... I guess I can say crady had follwed IM and so had Lillith followed with in her wake, after asking them If she could join, a few twitches in her cheek mussle shook as she stood and watched IM about to enter. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Din pulled Crady and Lilith in with her magic. You will not need to do anything. When I do the final version thread, I can put you somewhere in the vicinity of leaving Jester Park, as you were just doing in your previous post, and that will make for good continuity. Dont worry! Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Thanks...Well... my brother is ragging at me to climb off. so I'm sure you'll get it somehow right to get everything in order. *brother glances at computer* Arg... you are a good writer and I'll be real back. *pokes brother with stick* Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard Lilith, by the way!!! Okay, some great ideas coming out! To summarise the ideas we have so far... 1. Solus is unwittingly being used as a spy by the Greater Evil. Although he/she/it was 'slain' by D, it is not dead, but partially controlling her mind. It is the Greater Evil that she is conversing with. 2. Kalanna has sacrificed herself to obtain the final ingredient that was required by Lordy to open the Well, knowing that a copy of her was thrown into the future during the explosion on Mage Mountain along with Key and Smee. (yet to be revealed later on in the plot) 3. The focal point at which the story ends and where the Soul Well is fixed, takes place on a convergance of magical ley lines of IF. This is the place that is marked 'Important' on the REAL MAP. For added convenience, this is the place where all the time-travellers (including the gem containing the ingredients) appear. And it's got to be an unlikely place. 4. The bottles of Greater Evil Gas were strategically placed about the city, and have been adding to the Soul Fog mix, inciting the residents to revolt, and causing strange behaviour amongst the councillors. 5. With the Dead IFians, Din and Smudge need to draw Muaddib and co back to their Realm, so that they can show Din the correct way back to the Dream Chamber to reclaim their bodies. Some normality needs to be restored to the Realm, Muaddib and co can have some role in stabilizing the Soul Well from their end. 6. IM, Lilith and Crady go off in search of Key, but Key has been blasted into the future. I actually vote that they fail to find him but they succeed in deducing what happened to Key and Smee on Mage mountain. That way everything can be left to converge in one spot at one point in time at the end... 7. Jez continues to make an antidote to the Greater Evil Gas, ready to apply to those who need it, and generally release it into the fog, at the appropriate moment. Does anybody have any objections to running with these ideas, or have anything they want to change or add? Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: I agree!!! *pushes brother to other computer* Now I'll go check out what is happening in the hangover. to see what is changed. Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Looks right to me, Crunchy Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: thx for the warm welcome CF! anyhoot, a great new list of ideas and things to bring this together! And i vote that crunch writes the next post in hangover! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Right, I found some incontinuity about the Master Map. As we all know, Jez stole the master map, and returned it to Council Hall, leaving it on China's seat when he had finished with it. JezSharp wrote: Jez slipped away into the tunnels, soon emerging from the basement of a run down house a street away - wearing a dark hooded cloak over his suit. Quickly he slipped unnoticed into the hall and, wiping the document of any fingerprints, left it lying on China's seat. Then he slipped away into the fog, holding his ears and focusing his mind away from the whispering mists as he descended beneath the town to obscurity. In the subsequent post, Kalanna writes that Lordy found the map... Kalanna Rai wrote: The grinning face of Lordy met her gaze. "Taking a risk, aren't you?" "I trusted you'd have the discretion to take the necessary precautions." She wanted to wipe the smirk off his face but instead waited for him to tell her what was so important. "I've just happened to find the Master Map in the Council Hall." Rai's crest raised high. Later on we have - chinaren wrote: He stood up and waddled over to a cabinet. He typed in a code, whispered a passwork and put is eye to a tube for a quick retina scan. A drawer slid back, revealing the True map of IF. Poor Jez. Did he really think that he would leave this around to be found by anyone? Sure, the backup copy Jez had taken had certain sensitive information on, but at least it didn't have the Dark Zone on it, or, well, you know. The Other place. For convenience and continuity sake let's all assume that Lordy then returned the map in China's cabinet at some point, seeing as he had a very good copy made by Kalanna long ago, he doesn't need the REAL one. So we can refer to him doing that as we continue to write. Further ref the map - Argo's idea of the ley lines ties in nicely with the mention of the 'Other Place'. Jez also mentions the 'Other Place' earlier on in the story. JezSharp wrote: He looked again at the map, that other place has definitely been added in recently, and the way its marked, and the fact that it's description includes words such as 'powerful, important, no one must approach', all highly persuasive - as though someone wants that place to be uncovered. I'd make such a place insignificant if it was really so important Jez shrugged, as info mod he liked info, but such a love had allowed him to sense that sometimes info must be gleaned more cautiously. I think I have a reasonable plan, he thought as he edited a copy of the map so that it showed only directions to the 'top secret' place, adding in the words 'treasure' for added effect, then printed out a dozen copies. Then whistling he moved silently upstairs to the Tourist Info booth. This means that everyone actually has a copy in their PM box, with the 'other' place marked 'Top Secret, Treasure'. Information about the ley lines could be revealed in Jez's book, 'The Treasures of IF'. There's also a lot of stuff from Kalanna about charms and terrible things that 'might' happen if copies of the map are used, but we could also assume that they 'might not'. I think we need to keep things simple now. Back to top Author Mastermind Citizen Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 198 Location: Right here. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: chinaren wrote: He stood up and waddled over to a cabinet. He typed in a code, whispered a passwork and put is eye to a tube for a quick retina scan. A drawer slid back, revealing the True map of IF. Poor Jez. Did he really think that he would leave this around to be found by anyone? Sure, the backup copy Jez had taken had certain sensitive information on, but at least it didn't have the Dark Zone on it, or, well, you know. The Other place. Seems to me that the map Jez stole was a copy (made by china) of the original True map of IF, with "The Other place" either added in recent, without china knowing, or as a different "Other place". The original True map of IF have always been in china's drawer. _________________ Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence. Henrik Tikkanen Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. Bill Watterson Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Hmmm, that means that even the map that Kalanna copied would be a copy that China made.... If we go with this idea, then in order to find the convergence of ley lines, someone has got to figure this out and go to China's mansion. Jez would be in a position to discover this, maybe by cross referring information from his book to the copy of the map that he has. Which is the preferred idea? That all along everybody has been playing with copies, versions and fakes of a copy that China made? Or that the real map was stolen by Jez, then returned to China's seat in the Council Hall, later to be picked up by Lordy and returned to China's cabinet? Back to top Author Mastermind Citizen Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 198 Location: Right here. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Quote: If we go with this idea, then in order to find the convergence of ley lines, someone has got to figure this out and go to China's mansion. Not necessarily, because A: It might be the place on Jez' map marked as important or B: they stuble upon someone else which knows the location of the convergence of ley lines. _________________ Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence. Henrik Tikkanen Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. Bill Watterson Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: I don't know if we could go with the 'everyone's been using fakes' idea since Lordy and I needed the REAL map to find the location of the three spell componants...That's why we went through all the trouble of making an excellent copy and replacing the map. Also if Lordy took it from China's cabinet it explains why we didn't just steal it outright and replaced it with a fake. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Well, lets not forget: Why did the map appear in Crunchy's pants in the beginning? I thought we'd said that Chinaren had installed it there after stealing it from Jez or Lordy. Chinaren was doing this in a 'spirit' form after he'd been sucked into space-time by a Lordy spell. The map was fake, but China didn't know that, which is why he had given it to Frog so as to help. Which means he couldn't have had the original in his cabinet. Also, the Greater evil gas seems like an unnecessary add-on, but since it has already been adopted, I guess we can't do anything unless we edit it out altogether. And as for Rai's future/ingredient thing, I think maybe these ingredients are those we can use to reverse the soul-well spell (as well as to increase it, as Lordy and Rai originally planned). The map thing is really confusing, though, because for some reason everyone was pretending to have the real copy. I think we should just solve it by making Key have the REAL original. The copy he gave Chinaren when he assumed office wasn't exactly correct. Therefore, when Key appears in the future, he'll be able to solve all of this, like he did in the True Story of IF (If we can get him to participate). _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Hmmm, and we also have this little anomaly to solve, too... which was posted right at the beginning of the story, and introduced the concept of the Soul Well. Kalanna Rai wrote: Back at the Council Hall Rai was surprised to find it a flurry of action. Grabbing one of the small, furry orange things that Chinaren had hired to do the fetch and carry work, she demanded to know what was going on. "It seems that sometime last night, an unknown person, or persons, stole the Master Map of the City. The Mayor and King are both rather upset about it, since that Map is the only one with the location of...er...things." Rai had to take her time with the creature to get it to divulge exactly what the map showed. Her eyes went wide. "Sweet DM in the sky! They have the location to the Soul Well?" The creature glumly nodded. We also have this.... Kalanna at the Council Meeting... Kalanna Rai wrote: "When I first became a mod Lordy approached me with an offer. It didn't seem like much at the time, just a quick copy job of some old documents one of which turned out to be the Master Map of IF." "So you stole the map!" Rai shook her head as Polokin emerged from the bushes. "No I didn't. I copied what Lordy brought me and recognized this for what it was so I made an advanced copy for myself with my mod tools. When I'd finished Lordy put them back again. The real map theif was none other than Jez Sharp." Of when Jez stole the map... JezSharp wrote: Ever since he'd taken control of the TI it had been a permanent job of first tidying the place up and then expanding the tunnels. First from the fantasy forest to the basement, then to convenient out of the way places...of course those were hard to find unless you know where to go...which is why he had needed the map. About the state of the map... JezSharp wrote: He looked again at the map, that other place has definitely been added in recently, and the way its marked, and the fact that it's description includes words such as 'powerful, important, no one must approach', all highly persuasive - as though someone wants that place to be uncovered. Confirming that Jez left the fake... JezSharp wrote: Jez rolled the map up wondering if anyone had yet discovered the one he'd left had been a fake... Chinaren's original.... chinaren wrote: He stood up and waddled over to a cabinet. He typed in a code, whispered a passwork and put is eye to a tube for a quick retina scan. A drawer slid back, revealing the True map of IF. Poor Jez. Did he really think that he would leave this around to be found by anyone? Sure, the backup copy Jez had taken had certain sensitive information on, but at least it didn't have the Dark Zone on it, or, well, you know. The Other place. Okay, so taking all the above into account, as well as the fact that Chin does not want his disappearance to be explained in Hangover, but at the same time we were kicking about the idea that Chin somehow wanted to assist D in solving the situation in his absence, how does this work? * The original map has traditionally been kept in China's cabinet. This is Chinaren's personal copy. It is an old map, containing the Dark Zone and the Other Place. Plotwise, it is an extra map that has been introduced too late in the game. For continuity and simplicity's sake, this map and these extra places should not figure too deeply in the wrapping up of the plot of the Hangover. * The backup copy, which to all intents and purposes, we have been calling the REAL map all along, had recently had some extra information added to it, about another place of some significance, considering the way its marked, and the fact that it's description includes words such as 'powerful, important, no one must approach'. Lets say the backup copy is normally kept in some repository in Council Hall with all other official documents. * The backup copy, (our REAL map) was first stolen by Lordy to be copied by Kalanna, and then replaced by Lordy. * Later, the map was stolen by Jez, to use for expanding his network of tunnels. Jez put a fake map in its place, in the hope that nobody would notice it had gone missing. * Chinaren, before he went off on his Tale of IF adventure was aware of the plot to crack open the well, and instructed one of his orange minions to go and get the backup copy of the map and deliver it to D-Lotus, knowing that D was heading the investigation. However, Chin was unaware that Jez had stolen the map and left a fake in its place. * By the time the New Year party was in full swing, Chin had already disappeared, the Soul Well had been cracked open, and the poor little orange thing was trying to find Lotus, with the fake map. It eventually finds two individuals on the cliff ledge, one hanging from a tree, the other laying on the ledge, both out of their senses. Not knowing which is Lotus, it stuffs the scroll down the pants of the one hanging from the tree. Job done. It's a stupid little orange fuzzball after all. * Later that morning when Kalanna returns to Council hall, there is pandemonium, because there is now no map in the Council hall at all. So she searches for the map, and that's when she finds Lotus, Crunchy and MW on the ledge with the fake. We may need to edit the obvious continuity problem with the King and the Mayor, because Kalanna's post assumes they are around, when the rest of the story assumes that they are both missing! I'll sort that out in the final version. * When Jez finishes with the map he stole, he returns it to China's chair in Council Hall, where Lordy finds it, and replaces it in the repository with the other official documents. How does that work for everyone? Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Sounds good to me! So much less confusion too! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Sounds good, when explained all at once...but no one in the story has all of that knowledge, so who'll explain it? _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Why, Key of course. Or perhaps it'll come out in bits and pieces as we slowly piece it together. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Well. crunchy everything looks good... Not much time to type, but So long I do see that everything is working out. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: D-Lotus wrote: Sounds good, when explained all at once...but no one in the story has all of that knowledge, so who'll explain it? Well, I'm not sure, it could be figured out by the team and recounted Scooby Doo style at the end... During the remainder of the adventure, for example, D could discover a clue that makes it obvious to him that Chinaren was supposed to have given him the map, and, if Jez owns up at some point that he placed the fake in the repository, our detective can figure it out along the way, as kind of like a side-plot. Meanwhile, I think we should now continue the story for a while, but from D's group's point of view. (D, Polokin, Lebrenth and Solus) The reason I think we should do it from his point of view is - He has Lebrenth with him, which means he has contact with IM, Lilith, Crady, and Jez, and he also has Solus with him, which means he has contact with Crunch, Sasuke, Din and Smudger. If we stay with D, we can keep progress with all the characters, using Lebby's mod ring and otherworldly contact via Solus, without the whole thing degenerating into a RPG. Only when one of the other groups gets to a pivotal point should we switch for a while, and then switch back, but we should stop the story and all agree when. But when we switch to another P.O.V, it should be for at least 10 posts which is about the length of a Hangover chapter. Okay? How does that sound? Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Quote: But when we switch to another P.O.V, it should be for at least 10 posts which is about the length of a Hangover chapter. Okay? whatever works for you and hangover... Still, i'm not that important in story, so it'll be up to the ones who knows what is going on about them. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Christalnightshade wrote: Quote: But when we switch to another P.O.V, it should be for at least 10 posts which is about the length of a Hangover chapter. Okay? whatever works for you and hangover... Still, i'm not that important in story, so it'll be up to the ones who knows what is going on about them. You're missing the point, Nightshade... Just because the focus moves away from your character doesn't mean you cannot continue writing the story. If you have been reading this discussion thread, you will be well aware of what is/will be happening to the others. This is what this thread is here for. You are co-writing the Hangover story, not just role-playing your character. When everybody who is collaborating on this experiment writes in this way the Hangover may just stand some chance of escaping being booted into Games. Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: i hope what i posted works! let me know if it needs to be changed! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Quote: You are co-writing the Hangover story, not just role-playing your character. When everybody who is collaborating on this experiment writes in this way the Hangover may just stand some chance of escaping being booted into Games. Sorry crunch didn't mean... eeerrrm....erm...erm. I'll go post now... It will not be booted into games *holds speaker fone high, while playing guitar* Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: *Reminds everyone that he and Crunchy ARE the mods for the games district.* _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: *nods* I know IM. If you have forgotten I litrally threw my avatar infront the screen... Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: woo all those maps sure are a mess... Still it looks like things are coming together, even if our heroes don't know it yet. It seems like we're leaning towards Lordy already being at the important place, but why is he there? Is he waiting on Rai to bring him the spell ingredients? Possibly. Does he know anything about what else is going on? Has he been taken out by the Greater Evil? Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: hey! now there's an idea Argo! having Lordy working for the greater evil and when he's served his purpose, the greater evil kills him off! Great story twist and solves the finding Lordy problem.. heh heh heh! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Hey, I like that too! I'm all for the heroes having to get Lordy out of a mess... BTW, well done with your posts, Lilith and Nightshade, that's the kind of approach I was looking for! Nightshade, you will need to keep a closer eye on what is going on, though, I think you missed a bit about Jez already telling Lebby about the bottles, and we agreed in this thread that we were not going to feature China's version of the map too heavily in the plot. I've sent the characters in the direction of China's mansion, but it might be better if they dont actually find his map, and Jez comes up with a solution in time. Good bit of suspense for the time being though. BTW, at some point in the near future there could be an opportunity for some cool writing if somebody, (D's group or IM's group) were to discover Kalanna's body. They will have no idea that she will reappear in the future, due to the accident on Mage Mountain. Since she has sent her gem with the ingredients into the future also, there will be no evidence at all as to what caused her apparently gruesome death. They will really really think she's dead... Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: So where is this 'place' Lordy is at? D's group really needs to know that if I'm going to post a piece of writing. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:06 am    Post subject: Okay, this is going well! I wont be about for a few days now, so please keep it going.. If the focus needs to switch to another group at some point, it would be good to end this part in a good suspenseful situation that can be returned to later. There is no reason why Jez cannot rejoin D's group when he has finished working on his antidote at the TI, and hopefully he'll have the info about where everything is going to happen at the end. If the focus does need to switch to another group, halt the writing, and just make sure in this thread that everyone knows roughly what they're going to be writing about, before you start! I havent officially asked anyone to take over 'directing' but I wondered if Chinaren and Argonaut wouldn't mind keeping an eye on the discussions since neither are actively involved in the writing but both have a good handle on what is going on with the plots, that would be a great help. If it is too much of an imposition, though, I have no problem with anyone else volunteering! Later! Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: I will try and keep an eye on it Crunch, but I am also going to be a bit busy* over the next couple of days. I suggest Lordy is stuck in the Swamp of the Dregs. A kind of 'sump' where all the goo from the Souls oozes into. The GE put him there to sink slowly. It wouldn't kill him, but it would trap him for ever. *Read drunk or hungover. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: OOOOOOH!! Please, let me write the scene when they find Chinaren's lair! I have a great idea!!! Okay, sorry. I hope this doesn't throw you off too much. It just seemed to fit quite nicely. Heehehehehhehehee. You can delete it if it contradicts anything. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Aslong as there is not any rope at that moment I'm then fine with you doing a small part of it. Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: I'd be very wary about approaching my body. There are still active wards around that place that can't be stopped without a sacrifice...which is why I'm dead. So unless someone want's to joing me... *sits back and waits for more company* _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: well I finally tried to write something in the actual story. I hope I haven't stepped on anyones plot-lines. I did refrain from giving myself a cameo let's keep this story moving! Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: I think your post in the hangover thread was perfect for this point in the story! I was also able to make one to move the story along a little more! Hope you like! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author solus.serpen Respected Citizen Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Location: UK Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Heheh. Umm, just thought I should point out that although Solus can communicate with the souls, and doesn't know what she's doing/is unconsious and out of it during the transaction, she is able to move once the connection has been lost. I mean, yeah, she might be a bit quiet and withdrawn, but it's not like she's knocked out... ...which seems to be some people's interpretation of it... Heh, so yeah. ~Solus _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image chapter 6 of DESTINY - a super old SG which won't continue...but there are a full 6 chapters if you feel like reading something with no ending! Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Hi folks, I'm back, and it was a good read! My only criticism is that it was starting to fall back into being a RP again. Great to see Argo putting in his first post! And a nice twist from Chin, I have attempted to tie it in together with how the fake map originally came to be planted on Crunchy, and managed to explain how D came by the crystal shard he gave Crunch to temporarily plug the Soul Well also. Kalanna, we are supposed to be writing from one point of view only, and you are RPing... If you think that we need to shift the focus of the story to your character, you need to suggest here that we stop it and we can all write it together as a chapter. That is how we are doing it now. I would like, actually to remove your 3 posts and copy them somewhere, to place them in later in the story. Kalanna Rai wrote: I'd be very wary about approaching my body. There are still active wards around that place that can't be stopped without a sacrifice...which is why I'm dead. So unless someone want's to joing me... We all understood that there was only one booby trap per ingredient, so unless you want to be more specific, you cannot expect people to leave that part of the story alone. It would also be good to leave your character for 'dead' for as long as possible, to give the characters and the reader the impression that there has been a tragedy, and that one of the main characters really has 'died', even though this is not really the case. We now have Chinaren's Tale of IF neatly tied in, and D's crew are moving further towards finding Lordy, who I think we've agreed we're supposed to be rescuing, now...? Also I am wondering whether we should think about shifting back to IM's team, in preparation to get closer to the place marked 'important', especially as it is IM's team that are out looking for Key. What are everyone's thoughts? (edit to add) I am also thinking about the idea about where the ley lines converge and the place marked 'important' - when I get time I'll look at the maps on the IFki and see if we can pinpoint a place so that we can all have a visual reference. Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: I personally agree with CF here....except that Lordy should just be killed by the Greater Evil... but that's just my opinion _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Lilith wants Lordy killed off? Councelling can solve that You have a point though. People in Lordy's case are usually just pawns used in the grand scheme, and are killed in time. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: I don't think Lordy would like to be killed off... I think he would just turn to our side. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: We shouldn't change anything drastically to anyone or anything in IF in this story. Chin has already voiced this. Nobody should be killed off permanently, or changed permanently, and nothing in IF should be drastically changed permanently. Like I suggested earlier, leaving a character for 'dead' for a sizeable portion of the story is okay for suspense, tragedy etc. as long as we know this is not really the case. At the end of Hangover, all characters should return to normal, and IF should start the process of returning to normal. The only major change to IF lore we may have made in the Hangover is new information about local geology and underground tunnels, and of course, the introduction of the Soul Well. Okay, we need to decide where we are moving next - Continue with D's group? IM's group? Din's group? Kalanna's group? My own personal opinion is that we should move to IM's group. The reason is that it gives more opportunity to find out 'clues' about Key and Smee, the time travel spell, and the ley lines. We can also learn more about the Soul Salve. Din's group and Kalanna's group are more to do with fixing the Soul Well itself, and perhaps should be focussed on later - I believe that starting with them too early might kill the suspense. Any other thoughts? Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Let's do this! _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Quote: My own personal opinion is that we should move to IM's group To me personally i think, this group should uncover clues, but only a little... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: Okay somebody mentioned earlier about the possibility of some magical ley lines converging somewhere, marked 'Important' on the map Using my *cough cough* formidable *splutter* cartographic skills, I have managed to draw some lines on the map of the surrounding area of IF (which I found in the IFki). Where these lines intersect, we could perhaps say that they are areas of heightened magical properties, or somehting like that. At these points we have the Soul Well, and the Important place... Also with a bit of jiggery pokery, it could be a coincidence that 2 lines intersect under Smee's house, which would explain why the Greater Evil was doing what it was doing in Smee's basement... But at least with a visual reference, we all know where we are. Hopefully. Anyway without further ado, and no laughing please... here goes.... Are you ready for this?.... . Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: *grumbles something about brainstorming in Chat* A few ideas got thrown around between Lordy, Nightshade and myself earlier today, and before they are long forgotten, I promised I'd summarise them here. They are - 1. The Jester Hat. The hat appeared at the Council meeting with 2 notes on it. Kalanna read one out, but did not read the other one out. She instead left it at the meeting when she went off to get the 'flesh' and 'bone' elements of Lordy's spell. D-Lotus picked up the hat and he still has it with him. What was on that second note? a) A fake ransom note from OF, saying they have Lordy. (The kidnapping did not occur) b) A note from Lordy to Kalanna saying that the 'flesh' and 'bone' elements were now up for grabs. c) A note in Kalanna's own handwriting from her future self that somehow a copy of herself got thrown into the future on Mage Mountain, and that she has to go sacrifice herself to get the 'flesh' and 'bone' elements of the spell. d) any more ideas welcome! Which idea should we go with? 2. How did a copy of Kalanna get sent into the future? a) If we remember, Smee got blasted into the future by the Greater Evil, when Smee was trying to stop it crack open the well. Smee was supposed to reconstitute the following day, but IM wove a temporary spell to try and speed up the process, as he needed Smee on Mage Mountain to help him reverse a curse on Key. Kalanna, Smee and IM reversed the curse but Mage Mountain exploded, and Smee and Key disappeared. So maybe there were remnants of the time spell around Smee, that just snapped back into effect, and sent Smee back into the future again, along with Key who happened to be right nearby. Kalanna, being a lot larger, happened to be standing in the wrong place and somehow a copy of her was whisked into the future with them too. b) Any alternative ideas are welcome! 3. What happens at the end when the spell is applied? a) Lordy harnesses the power of the Souls at the crucial moment, and directs the power towards the AHA desert or the Fanta Sea. b) The Soul Well is successfully sealed up by using the spell, reverting everything to normal. c) Lordy says that waiting for the Soul Well to explode was always his plan, knowing that it could never contain the power of the souls. He intended to use the blast to save his own life and control IF. He is overpowered by the others. d) Any more ideas welcome. (Remember, however that we have to resume some semblance of normality at the end of the story - nothing should drastically change.) Which idea should we go with? 4) What IM's group should find This has already been discussed, but the plot has moved on a bit in as much as it was IM's group that discovered Kalanna's body. They should probably figure out that one of her gems is missing, but of course they dont know why. They also dont know what she was doing when she 'died'. Perhaps using IM's magic they should be able to trace the time spell and figure out what has happened to Smee, and maybe even to Rai, but not, necessarily, to Key. Any more suggestions welcome! Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: I really like all of these ideas and I think the Jester Hat's 2nd note should be from Kalanna's future self tellling her she has to sacrifice herself to get the last couple parts of Lordy's spell... this was a very good idea whoever came up with it cuz way back in the City Council Mems. meeeting, Kalanna's attitude changed and she became more serious after reading the 2nd note, which if you found out you had to die to do something but knew it would be alright because your future self has already lived through the experience only you dont know how...whew! That would give you quite an attitude adjustment, wouldn't it? Hey! Whose great idea was it to start messing with the space-time continuum anyway? _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Sorry I have've been absent for a few days...and it seems I missed quite a lot. So...to catch up and to respond to all of Crunchy's many suggestions/questions: 1.) D: A note from Lordy saying Rai's severices are no longer needed...that he had found somewhere else to get his merchandise. Simple, sweet, unconfusing, and just open enough to mean abouseltly anything.... 2.) a or b: Kalanna had already established a future self of herself, earlier in the week because she knew this would happen. 3.) B or C, or both 4.) Lovely map btw....perfect for understanding what's happening, which being utter chaos is always hard to understand. 5.) I agree that we should follow IM's group (I've lost track whose who and who's where though) as they converge search for Kalanna...perhaps they can meet up with Kalanna and Co. and convently merge on one of the Important merging spots as things start to wrap up. I also think that prehaps we should catch up with Crunchy and co. to see how patching up the soul well is holding up...maybe as a sort of interlude between parts or something of that sort. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Lilith wrote: Hey! Whose great idea was it to start messing with the space-time continuum anyway? Urgh, dont ask! I misread one of Kalanna's posts, and an interesting idea came out of it. *hates writing time travel* Hangover is running again, this time from IM's perspective. Perhaps we'll move onto the Realm of Dead IFians after that... as Din said, it might make a nice interlude... Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: I hope my post was okay with everyone. If not, tell me here and I'll either edit or delete it. _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Hello all, I've been deathly ill* and I hope nobody minds that I'll be doing a post from Lordy's point of view instead of continuing my own storyline for the time being. I had a sudden insight and I must post it, lest my muse beat me unconscious with a rubber mallet. *Read incredibly lazy and busy coating my bedroom in a new coat of paint: Phlem. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: IM - Trouble with that is we're still deciding exactly what I'm up to. There's any number of possible reasons - I've hidded my Mod ring to throw people off my trail. I've been captured by the GE. I'm faking an abduction by the people of OF. Plus, I have no reason to kill Rai - she's done everything I've expected of her so far - killing my loyal ally serves no purpose, except to cover up my plan. And seeing how everyone already knows my plan (or thinks they do), that aspect is ruined. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Quote: Text from Rai's posts which will be removed and reinserted later Rai blinked several times and shook her head to clear the fog of death from her head. She flexed some talons trying to discern if she was fully meshed into her new body. "Hello Rai, plesure to see you again. Have a seat won't you?" Smee grinned as the startled ghostly dragoness turned a surprised face toward him. King Key waved a lazy hello in the direction of the ghostly mod before turning back to gaze at the time zipping past. "Smee? Key? Where in IF...why arn't I in flesh again?" The wizard chuckled. "Well you died a smidge too soon. Looks like you're just going to have to wait around with Key and I until we catch up." Smee watched the dragoness look around. "Lost something?" Rai spread her claws in a gesture of futility and nodded. "You wouldn't have happened to notice an amulet with a magical ruby the size of a small imported car whizz past would you?" Smee and Key shook their heads as Rai sighed. "Oh well...at least it should show up when we get there." "It's probably just a little further along in the time stream." Key mused. "Speaking of which, heads up Rai." "Huh?" Twisting her head to look around the dragoness had a moment to get the perception of something large and red coming at her at mach speed before she and her future body impacted with tremendous force. "Ouch. That's a rather unplesant sensation. Remind me not to do this again." Smee chuckled. "If the situation ever arises where you've inadvertantly sent a copy of your body into the future and yourself, Key, and I find ourselves zipping through Space Time again...I'll try to remember that." Rai, Key, and Smee had been reduced to playing I-Spy while whizzing through Space Time to pass the time, no pun intended, when they were suddenly spat out with a thump. "Ouch!" Key groaned. "What did I land on? A rock?" Rai untangled herself, her head was caught under her wing, and gave a short snort of joy. "Nope just me." Quickly the revitalized dragoness stripped her body of everything important in a few quick seconds. "Hang on, my mod gems have gone cold. It'll take me a few minutes to bring them on line again." Smee glanced around apprehensively. "Is it safe to stay here while we wait for that?" "No place safer. The wards should be back online by now. Going out's no problem, coming in requires somebody with a deathwish." "Indeed." Key murmered one pudgey hand on one of his chins. "I'm astonished you found this place." He glanced at Rai with narrowed eyes. "Just how did you accomplish that?" Rai quirked an eyebrow at him. "I had a good copy of the Master Map." To this Key made no reply other than a long 'hheerrrm' which might just have been his breathing. Smee poked at the wards a bit while Rai stole the essences from her former flesh. "I still say we get moving...we need to find the Soul Well if what you told us in transit were correct." The dragoness didn't argue, she had to find her red amulet after all and she was pretty sure she knew where it was going to materialize. Quickly scooping up Smee, it took a few moments for her to lift Key and get them both comfortbly situated on her back, they looked around. "Why aren't we moving." "My gem's not back up yet. I don't have a map until it is...unless you do?" Smee shook his head. It was at that moment Key fished around in his massive belly rolls and pulled free what looked like a much abused lunch napkin. "I happen to have one right here...." Hmmm, the last post went before I had a chance to copy it... I hope whoever deleted it copied the text somewhere... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Okay, ref IM's post, it is a complete curveball, yes, but it brings us squarely in front of an issue we've all been dancing around, and that is Lordy's plan. Now - Lordy has been quite reticent throughout about divulging his characters plans. He recently mentioned in Chat about involving a war with OF, but unless we get any detail down here, it is going to be very difficult for us all to write about that sensibly. I would suggest that whatever Lordy's ultimate plan is, it needs to be simple in design, as it is being introduced so late in the game, and it has to be reconciled with the huge plate of spaghetti that is the rest of the plot. Let's look at IM's post... Quote: Meanwhile, elsewhere in the city, right underneath the spot marked 'Important' on the master map of IF... Okay, for continuity's sake, (and the crappy map I produced earlier, ) the place marked 'Important' is out of town, a bit to the north. Quote: ...Lordy paced back and forth in his inner sanctum. This means we are placing Lordy's inner sanctum right underneath the place marked Important, (right out of town, to the north). I always did like the idea of everyone finding Lordy at the Important place, being there either by his own design, or in capture, or in battle with the Greater Evil. I hadn't thought of him having his Inner Sanctum be there. Maybe he built it there with the precise reason for taking over IF? (Perhaps that is why he originally had Kalanna copy the map?) Quote: Damn, damn, and double-damn. Everything was falling around his ears. As the old daemon saying went: The best laid plans are often undone by mortals. He'd just never believed it until now. IM had not only recovered his memory, but also went out to find what remained of Rai. Fortunately, she was dead, killed off by some old spell or other, but she'd sent her necklace to her future self. She'd somehow gotten herself entangled with Smee's time-travel spell from earlier. All was not lost, however, as her gems would take time to retune themselves to her after her apparent 'death.' If he could nab them soon enough, there was an off chance they'd retune to him instead. D had found Chinaren, and learned the truth and also recovered his memory. Polokin had almost finished him off nicely, but then more truth had come out. Bah. And now they were on his doorstep, albeit a hidden one. He couldn't just sit and wait for them to find him. He'd have to eliminate them as well. And then there was the matter of the Soul Well. It was being haphazardly patched up, but if the citizens of IF continued in this fashion, then their metaphysical duct tape would do the job that the fancy magics were supposed to. There had to be something he could use to retake control of that situation. This is a good summary! The only part that doesn't quite fit is that Kalanna was killed off by attempting to get one of the ingredients of the spell for Lordy. She has all the ingredients now, (in the gem that has been sent into the future). So if that bit could be edited, that would be great... We also need some way of explaining how Lordy knows all this stuff!!! Quote: Control. He had to regain control. That was key here. He took a few deep breaths, and realized what he had to do. "Servile minion!" Lordy bellowed. Quite quickly, an impish figure appeared in a small flash of flames. It bowed to him, awaiting his orders. "Set loose the Devourer upon Kalanna Rai. Tell him that any jewelry he finds is to be brought to me outside his stomach. Lordy is not actually asking to kill Kalanna here. Only to get the Gems. He's after control. So we can work around this. Quote: Release Smauna in the outer antechamber-" "Sir, IM, D, Crunchyfrog, and Sasuke already destroyed the Fauna Slug." The imp quivered as he contradicted his master. "Then supplement her with the Destroyer." The Greater One had given him many cool minions with names like that which had abilites to match. Ah, the Greater One. Who is that? The Greater Evil, we presume? Quote: "I do not wish to be found until I have completed the essential spell-weaving. Let loose the ghasts and shades into the Realm of Dead IFians, seeing as they are the only ones that can safely enter that realm. That is all." Oh gawd... Quote: The imp bowed. "I obey your will, master." It vanished in another puff of flames. Lordy considered. He needed to get away, and he needed to harness the power of the Soul Well. There might be a way to do both, and he carefully flipped through an old spellbook that moaned softly as he turned the pages, looking for an anwser. Yes...by tying the Unsummoning ritual with the one that would give him total dominion over the power of the Soul Well, he might be able to drain the power directly home. This still works, assuming that the one that would give him total dominion over the power of the Soul Well is the one with the 3 elements that Kalanna was collecting. Quote: IM would be tricky. Lordy pondered awhile, and then realized that IM would have been cursed several times over by now. He quickly did a scan of IM and reactivated the most potent curse he could find, carefully recalibrating the area of effect to also nab whoever was near IM at the time in a similar curse, and set it to go off when he was surrounded by people. That ought to be interesting. Stopping D would be easy, he would just unleash his secret weapon once D reached him. There would be no escape...Lordy allowed a small evil laugh to escape his throat. As he finished, dust billowed down from above, and he realized it might not have been so small after all. Personally, overall, I think it's a great post, it is just badly placed. It says a lot but still does not reveal much about Lordy's ultimate plan. But perhaps before we write any further, we should nail down what Lordy's plan is. I'll put the options in the next post because this one is getting a bit long. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: 1. What was Lordy's original plan? a) Incorporate a war with OF to take over IF (need details from Lordy though) b) Piggyback from the spell of the Greater Evil who cracked open the well (as per D-Lotus's revelations) by sending Kalanna to get the 3 ingredients, to fully open the well, and take over just about everything from the deserts of AHA to the Fanta Sea. c) Use the 3 ingredients to harness and control the power of the Souls in the Well for his own general use after it had been cracked open by the Greater Evil. (Per IM's post) d) Use the 3 ingredients to harness and control the power of the Souls in the Well to use purposefully to take over and rule IF. e) Any more suggestions welcome. Remember, regardless of what is chosen here, at the end of the story, it should be thwarted in some way, as everything should return back to normal, with Lordy's plans being put on ice until 'next time'. Although we can write about Lordy's plan, it doesn't necessarily have to be revealed to the characters in the story, which could preserve Lordy's attempts to have another go at taking over in the future. Also, I'd like to remind everyone to give their opinions on the options we have for the end of the story.... 2. What happens at the end when the 3 part spell is applied at the Well? a) Lordy harnesses the power of the Souls at the crucial moment, and directs the power towards the AHA desert or the Fanta Sea. b) The Soul Well is successfully sealed up by using the spell, reverting everything to normal. c) Lordy says that waiting for the Soul Well to explode was always his plan, knowing that it could never contain the power of the souls. He intended to use the blast to save his own life and control IF. He is overpowered by the others. d) Any more ideas welcome. (Again, bear in mind we have to resume some semblance of normality at the end of the story - nothing should drastically change.) Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: If we're going with IM's post then it appears that Lordy is working for the Greater evil, who is supplying Lordy with minions. Of course, that doesn't mean that Lordy isn't planning to double-cross the GE This would mean Lordy was working for the GE in exchange for a piece of the action when the GE takes over. However he always planned to destroy the GE and take his place as ruler when the time came. So my proposal for what happens in the end is that our heroes stop Lordy at a crucial moment, foiling his double-cross and actually allowing the GE to come to power. Then everyone will need to band together somehow, even Lordy, to destroy or banish the GE. How does that sound? Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Argo's plans sound simple, and straight forward enough that I say go with it. Having Lordy working with the GE but planning to double cross it/him/her later definetly make's sense and the Three Indregents Rai has been gathering for Lordy could explain how exactly Lordy intended to gain the 'upperhand' on the Greater Evil using the 'Three Indregents' and The 'Soul Well's Power. However, I would divege from this plan a little...instead of everyone barging on Lordy before he double-crosses the GE, how about the GE crosses Lordy instead? It could happen something like this: ~ ~ ~ Lordy stands waiting for his minions to delever the 'indregents' Rai collecected for him. He needed them before 'he/it/she' arrived. GE swoops in out of nowhere, laughing madly having already gained what needed through other means, cast a sever spell on Lordy that either causes his death or really bad damage on the Demon before exiting to finish his plans. D's group arrives in time to 'save' Lordy from his untimely death, but are unable to stop the GE's escape. ~ ~ ~ The GE betraying Lordy would definetly give Lordy a reason to join the gang in stopping the GE's plans if only for revenge, and maybe to cover his own tale too. As a result, when the group faces off with the GE Lordy, Rai, Crunchy, IM, etc, etc, can use everything they learned/gathered/made to stop the GE mid track possibly redrecting the spell the GE is using so it either destroys the GE itself or is redricted to somewhere harmless like AHA or THE. I also think we should keep IM's post exactly where it is...just delete Rai's post to post it at a later point...perhaps after IM finishes his scans or we move to the Smee/Key group point of view (which we could do, maybe they have something we need). Well, anyway the reason I think we should keep IM's post where it is presently is because D's group is so close to where Lordy is but still ignorant of his present location, this short interval tells us exactly where Lordy is without having to deal with the possibility of the capture of Lordy. Besides if I remember rightly, Lordy discarded his ring earlier, perhaps he did this to throw his would be 'finders' off the trail (It won't work though not with D's 'senses' full up and running!) but perhaps it was a clever ruse to lure them into his trap. Another recall tells me that Lordy planned on using D, Lebby, and someone else as 'volenteers' from sort of 'expeirment'...maybe Lordy purposfully left his ring where it was found to lure his 'victims' to this spot. Perhaps as a service to the greater evil....as say 'the sacrifices' needed to gain control over the soul well or the 'three ingredents' The GE isn't aware Lordy already has acess to via Rai. So...in summary, We have found Lordy. He is in his inner sactum, he knows D's group is close, he knows he would enventually be found be D's 'sluth senses'. When Lordy is found he will release his 'last weapon'.....this weapon will destroy D and co. (Lordy may need this sacrfice for the "Spell' mentioned in IM's post). Lordy may or may not be luring D's group for some purpose in concordence with his plan with the Greater Evil to gain the ultimate control over If. Lordy has currently waiting for the ingrendents Rai gathered to be used (perhaps) in the collabartion of the sacrifice of D and co to gain enough power to double cross the GE while gaining complete control over the Soul Well (and thus the City at the same time). Before Lordy recieves the ingredents or news from his minions, he is double crossed by the GE in some way. In the end, the GE attempts to kill Lordy. D's group arrives just in time to 'save' Lordy, but are unable to stop the GE's escape. GE escapes to wherever to finish his plans...only Lordy knows where this is. Betrayed, Lordy agrees to help everyone stop the GE. Using already constructed evil plans, Lordy lays out the stragegdy for the group. IN the end...the GE is stopped, the Soul Well is patched succesively, Chinaren because of the disasters taken place in the city (and especially my newly cleaned park!) is able to go ahead with his expensive reconstruction plans to gain...yes that's right more Fables, Lordy (apparently 'good') now puts his plans to take over on Ice for Next time, and everyone is returned to what passes for the state of normal for If. Unless of course anyone else has any ideas? Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: I love it, Din! *is laughing happily* It's perfect! Your plan is running parallel to CF's plan and it has the details to make it happen! Let's get Hangover finished guys! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: I preferred Argo's idea personally. Having the IFians accidently ruin my needlessly complicated plan would give a classic Scooby-Doo line, while still giving me a reason to stop the GE. I can still try and take control of the city after defeating the GE afterall. Most likely, the GE is after destruction of IF, and possibly the entire country (hence using the Soul Well). With the ingredients though, Lordy would be able to harness the power of the Soul Well, betraying the GE, and leading to gaining control. Plus, it explains why I wasn't going around getting them myself - the GE could have been keeping tabs on me, so I enlisted Rai's help. Btw, if anyone wants to hear my original elaborate, needlessly complicated (and now slightly editted) plan in full, just say so. I'll write it up. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Go for it Lordy, I'm intrigued to hear it! (and btw, I like Argo's idea too!) Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: Okay, Hangover is up and running again, from IM's point of view. I've posted - IM has completed his forensic study, and has: 1) Figured out that Kalanna was killed by a spell that was protecting something but he doesn't know what it was 2) Discovered the time spell, and has correctly theorised that a version of Kalanna may have been ripped away into the future. However, Lilith is suggesting that this is too far fetched, and not to get his hopes up, so they will ignore IM's theory, thus still making Kalanna's re-entry into the story a complete surprise. JezSharp has learned about the Ley Lines and the 3 elements of the spell in his book The Treasures of IF. Jez and D have correctly assumed that Lordy is at the place marked Important, but have INCORRECTLY assumed that Lordy has the 3 ingredients to the spell. This means they can all converge on Lordy later, ready to foil his plan, but... ooops! The ingredients aren't there. It also provides a good entrance point for Kalanna, and her gem with the ingredients later on. This should also tie in with them 'accidentally ruining Lordy's needlessly complicated plan'. Okay, please could the next couple of post deal with IM trying to get out of the city to the north.... After that we can talk about how we are going to write about the Realm of the Dead IFians, and what's going on with Sasuke, Crunch, Din and Smudger... Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: well, i come back to find my post deleted. Ah well. I'll go check out hangover. and try and fall back into this place. well, i do think there has to be something like a staff that can kill the minions quite easily. let say there is skalready one having it- one in the council, probably forgot where he/she put it down-maybe on mage mountain. mmm. anyway I'll go post I'll stick in this plot for now, not going to change anything. EDIT: Cruncy i have noticed there are two more lylines converging. and it is at the outside boarders of IF... Can I o Please Say that Lordly is there. It be so cool. See then he is trying to hide from the ifains while he is planning his little assimilation of the explosion.. *laughes evilly* Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: It has already been written into the story that Lordy is hiding in his inner sanctum underground, where the leylines converge on the spot marked 'Important' on the map. The next couple of posts need to be dealing with getting IM's group moving in that direction somehow, perhaps even getting as far as meeting up with D's group. And then perhaps we can move the focus on to the Realm of Dead IFians, since the Lordy character has just let loose some mayhem down there. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: It seems to me this story needs to wrap up and finish. We keep saying: "We need to tie in the loose ends." but whenever we begin to do so, something new springs up and makes everything more complex and longlasting. Therefore, I think this story needs immediate action towards the end, because the climax is slowly decaying into a perpetual state of ongoing meaningless adventures. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Alright well I've put IM's team well on their way to heading north. I know I said I wasn't gonna put myself in this story but it was just a cameo, I wrote myself right back out again Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Excellent post as well Argo! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject: I f5 Chinaren! Great post Argo! Although I was about to take bets to see how long it would take for you to put yourself in the story.. lol! I am just kidding! Okay, I left IM's phrase hanging and therein leaving a perfect window of opportunity for the next author to jump in with an explanation of which curse Lordy activated and when it had been originally cast and by who! Enjoy! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Excellent post, Argo, and great follow on, Lilith! Okay, so, playing the curse out... I thought of re-using the Fox curse, or the memory loss curse, but decided to go for something different, and something not too debilitating, because we really need to be moving on now. IM, Crady and Lilith have been hit with the Mirror curse. They are all speaking backwards, so nobody can understand them. They can understand each other, but to them, everyone else appears to be speaking backwards. The same goes with written text - they cannot read it as it appears backwards to them, so IM cannot use his spell book. I would suggest that this curse is best used only as a device for a little humour, but not for impeding the plot any further. They should still be able to stumble upon Lordy's Inner Sanctum and accidentally foil his plans, curse or no curse. Even though they cannot understand one anothers utterances, sign language should suffice! D's group have caught sight of IM's group in the distance, so the next author can reunite them, and truly reveal the horror of the groups not being able to understand one another... ~ ~ ~ I think once the two groups have been reunited, we need to focus on the Realm of Dead IFians, examine what is going on there, and get Din, Smudge, Sasuke and Crunch safely out of there before the real fireworks begin. We should discuss it here before writing it, though. I would urge everyone to read chapter 7 (link in my sig) to remind themselves of what the Realm of Dead IFians looks like. There are a lot of things in there we can use. Note: When writing the final version, I made a slight amendment to the plot - On her first visit to the Realm, Dinranwen had tortured Muaddib into telling her how to get back into IF. He had told her that she could take on the body of a RP character to get back to IF. Since then we came up with the idea of reunification of body and soul in the Dream Chamber. So we needed an explanation as to why Muaddib did not tell her about this process. I have therefore added piece showing Muaddib deliberately NOT telling Din about the Dream Chamber first time around, as punishment for the torture. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Quote: Note: When writing the final version, I made a slight amendment to the plot - On her first visit to the Realm, Dinranwen had tortured Muaddib into telling her how to get back into IF. He had told her that she could take on the body of a RP character to get back to IF. Since then we came up with the idea of reunification of body and soul in the Dream Chamber. So we needed an explanation as to why Muaddib did not tell her about this process. I have therefore added piece showing Muaddib deliberately NOT telling Din about the Dream Chamber first time around, as punishment for the torture. Drat. I knew buying that Truth Potion from Fenris for 5 fables was too good to be true.[/quote] Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Good post Dinranwen! Well done all! The IM POV chapter was definately one of the better sequences of writing we've had in the Hangover. Okay, our next job is to deal with the Realm of Dead IFians. We've already got a setting... I've pulled together everything I could find that has been described about the Realm so far, for the sake of continuity. This is kind of what it looks like... The Realm of the Dead IFians so far contains a Tavern, called Ye Old IFian Tavern Club. It sells free unending drinks for the rest of eternity. In the bar, if you stand on one of the tables, you can pull down some attic steps, and climb up them. When you get to the top you step into a colourless void, as you climb onto the roof of the Tavern. From there you can see the bottom of the Soul Well. You can also somehow get underneath the Dream Chamber to a computer room where you can change your identity. We can assume that there is also a route to the Dream Chamber, from the roof of the Tavern. From the roof is also a room called Channel IF Broadcasting, where views of IF can be seen from various POV. I vote that this room is where you can communicate via mediums like Solus from Outside the Tavern although it is an idyllic landscape the sky is a mess. There are 3 great vortices in the sky, all there as a result of the cracking open of the Soul Well. Crunchyfrog has stuck a shard of crystal in the ground, and a permanent spark from the ground extends to the largest vortex in the sky, which has closed it a little. This is the 'patching up' job that Crunch was sent to do. There are about to be some ghasts and shades let loose into the Realm courtesy of Lordy (IM's latest post) so mayhem is about to ensue. Now we have to remember that Muaddib and co are not that interested in going back to IF and really want to be left on their own to enjoy their neverending drinks in the Tavern when this is all over. Perhaps the main structure of the chapter is a communication via Solus, followed by an escape by Crunch, Din, Smudge and Sasuke into the Dream Chamber, whilst Muaddib and co hold the fort against the ghasts and shades, and also keep Crunch's patch-up maintained? Any other ideas welcome! Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Ok lordly underground then. GOOD JOB everyone. I have an idea and i hate to spoil surprises. I think after lordly is over powered. Must Tara my other side come out and convess. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Nightshade - at this late stage in the game, we need all ideas out in the open, so that we can all help write it in. Otherwise the story will never finish! The Hangover is almost wrapped up, and we are at the point of tying up loose ends. I would warn against using dual personalities and alter egos though, if that is what you are looking to write in, especially where they involve multiple user accounts - (which is bad nettiquette, not a good thing to do). Let's hear your idea, but keep it simple, please! Edit: After Din/Smudge/Crunch/Sasuke's escape to the Dream Chamber, we'll turn our attention to Kalanna Rai. I have saved 3 of her posts and will paste them in after we've written the chapter of the Realm of Dead IFians. Everyone is gradually coming closer together... Right, any ideas on the Realm of Dead IFians chapter, other than the suggestion I posted so far? Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Quote: I would warn against using dual personalities and alter egos though, if that is what you are looking to write in, especially where they involve multiple user accounts - (which is bad nettiquette, not a good thing to do). Don't worry cruncer that account is gone. as you can see it says guest... Well. I think that it should be me that has been planting the gasses around the place, it won't be that hard to type and it won't change anything to the plot. It would be easy to add, because I was the first to have gotten into that stage and well still IM thinks me Nuts. So It would be obvious that it would be me that has been doing the planting of it.... Be real back to send more ideas. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: I agree with Crunchy's ideas. Their short, simple, and best of all, shouldn't take to long to do. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Quote: "Dinranwen and Smudger have brought the dead IFians back, and they say the lost souls are draining out of the fog. But Muaddib says the realm of the dead can't take much more of the soul well's energy. If this isn't fixed soon, even the dead will have no place to live." This is the last mention from the Realm of Dead IFians. Are there any more ideas for this chapter before we all get started? Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Quote: Quote: "Dinranwen and Smudger have brought the dead IFians back, and they say the lost souls are draining out of the fog. But Muaddib says the realm of the dead can't take much more of the soul well's energy. If this isn't fixed soon, even the dead will have no place to live." This is the last mention from the Realm of Dead IFians. Are there any more ideas for this chapter before we all get started? I say the well would not be fixed in time, but the clues revealed of what happened to rai's amulet and then to see what is going on at the place marked important. ... I say that the dead has already lost their home, some souls have already corrupted Ifains right... Ah well. Onto the story of hangover then. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Just for the record: I was absolutely not serious when condemning the Hangover while in one of my prophetic moods. Although it is true I would not like this type of storygame/rpg to take over the city of IF and strangle everything to death in it's clutches, I do think there is a place for the Hangover & company here. I do believe that these stories could fit in rather well, as long as they don't get out of hand. And there shouldn't be any reason for them getting out of hand, unless the population of IF is more of an rpg population rather than a storygaming population. If people continue to be RPGers after being exposed to storygames, it simply means that for some reason the RPG is stronger and more entertaining than storygames. Which would make storygames a minor failing, as the 'pick your own story' books were. But this is completely not the fault of Hangover. Hangover is simply destiny, waiting to arrive. Hangover is only the test: what is more durable, RPG, or storygames? Is the experiment working or not? For me, I rather prefer storygames. There is no question there. If everyone thinks like me, then there should be no problem; RPG can be fitted into IF in minimal quantities. If everyone prefers RPG, then the storygaming experiment was a failure and nobody is to blame. I have faith in storygames. I don't condemn the Hangover for it's inevitable nature. I think the Hangover has a place inside IF, as long as it isn't overwhelming. That's it, just for the record. I hope I haven't offended anyone with my childish play on prophetization. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: I fear Hangover is still grossly misunderstood, even now. All the way through this thread, I have stressed that this is NOT to be written as a RPG, and I have even got to the point of having RPG style posts deleted on sight. Hangover is an experiment in multi-authoring. This is an excerpt from a multi-author story I participated in, in 2001. It was actually done without any need for any director, or any discussion thread, or any PM's between the writers. The writing is not that great, but the point I am making is that they are narrating a story containing characters they introduced, rather than RP'ing them. Take the authors names away in italics, and it could almost be passed for having been written by one person. Quote: Pman Al looked at Manic, a worried look crossed his face. "No idea, honestly. But even at that risk, this Age needs fixing. For the memories of the millions who have played before, and to the townsfolk here." "Yeah, you're right. Let's just try to get it right!" They headed out into the square... J.Ages ...to find Funky and Leary painting the resonance rings yellow, Honey attending to PMan's wounds, and everyone else getting whammed on the Elderberry wine left in the wagon.... Corsec "Will somebody tell them to stop drinking the wine? Besides, we'll need it to celebrate if this thing works. And also, Manic is complaining that that's all the fuel he has." said Al, warningly. "All right, when I'm done getting this wound wrapped" replied PMan. Al continued. "And I need some one to stand by the control for the fire marble table to activate it. Tonya, you go do that. Everyone, grab a Pepsi can as usual and line up. as soon as it activates, everyone needs to move quickly through the field before the remodulator overloads. Ready?...Tonya, NOW!" Tonya hit the switch, jumping back to avoid the impending current, which to everyone's surprise, did nothing. Tonya hit it again, but to no avail... Pman "Leary, Funky!! What on earth are you doing?!" Al screamed. Funky and Leary paused and looked at Al. "Uhhm, I thought you said you did not like Cyan?" said Funky. "The point was not the colour you cretins. Do you honestly think it is going to work any better REGARDLESS of what colour you paint it?!!! "Well, what colour would you like it Al?" asked Leary. Al started pulling out clumps of Manic's hair. "STOP IT!!! PUT THE BRUSHES DOWN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE RESONANCE RINGS!!!" Funky and Leary did as they were told. "Right Tonya, try again" called Al. Compare the above with Final Fantasy, Realm, and Vengeance in the Games forum, and even the first part of the Hangover, where the writers really do role play, each telling the story from the POV of their own character. There is a significant difference. I started Hangover with something like the above in mind, but it did not go as I expected. There ended up being anywhere up to 6 separate POV going on at any one time, with tenuous links between them, because people have written it RP style. In hindsight, I should have given a clearer explanation of what I wanted to achieve, it may have cleared up a lot of confusion. I should have limited the number of POV in the story. (This was a rule we used in the above excerpt) Perhaps also I should not have used an IFian tale as the subject - that also makes it difficult not to RP. I will admit that there is probably a very fine line between a bad multi-author adventure, and a good RP tale, and Hangover fell into the RP trap very early on, because of the way it was being written. Taking ideas and advice from people here, I have evolved the way Hangover is being written, and I think we have pulled ourselves out of the realm of RP now. We could even be approaching a point where posts could be placed directly in the Tales of IF forum, subject to pre-vetting and cleaning up, of course. I have always intended Hangover to be a Multi Author style experiment, and as long as everyone who is contributing to it remembers that, and concentrates on the story, rather than on the role of their character, then it will be just that. The acid test is to string a few posts of Hangover together, regardless of who wrote them. Aside from the writing style, if the story flows as if it was written by one person, then it has succeeded as a Multi Author storygame. I think we are only just starting to achieve that now. So if anyone now dares suggest that Hangover is a RP style game, they shall be struck down by the wrath of the Frog!!! Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: CF i totally understand what you mean by that, and it is fun when everyone is playing in narrative, then the other's charrecter's deos something he wouldn't have tought of. Off to hangover then...*looks about at SG* Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject: Cf I have an idea! Ok Ok, listen. Jez still has the map right. Now IM can take a stick draw two lines crossing each other. The two lylines. The jezz would notice the simalaraty and then IM Can point where each group would go. since speaking would not work. Lillith and I should help by pointing toward the body of Rai, "on emit rof it!" .... be back with more idearium. hehe Still even after they noticeing our jabbering talk. Jezz would have no prob to help out, or maybe a translator with him. Ah well. Then they're off to the laylines after long journey. Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Well, wether it is RPG or multi-authoring, it still isn't a storygame. All I need to do is change RP to multi-authoring on my post above, and the meaning will be exactly the same. But anyway, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, Crunchy. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: As I demonstrated, there is a big difference between multi-authoring and RP. Multi authoring is where more than one person writes a story. RP is where everyone roleplays a character and writes, based on things that are happening in the scene. In the last 10 or so posts of Hangover, I believe we have finally made that cross over to Multi Authoring. In particular, check out the last 5 posts, (Argo's flying machine) that constitute the most recent chapter. In Hangover, all the authors are discussing what happens in the next chapter of the story. Is this not what happens in a storygame? The only difference is that they all get to write, instead of just one person. The reason I have not done polls is because there are at the moment too many things to poll. It is easier to discuss on a thread, and draw from that information later. But if it was a simpler plot, yes, we would have had actual polls. Yes, you have hurt my feelings, Lotus, not because you dont understand (which I think I can live with) but because it seems you dont want to understand. Trying to evolve the way Hangover is written so that it makes that crossover into storygaming has been very hard work for me, and time consuming. I have needed to have belief in it to maintain my drive, and this is not helping. If you want to criticize, be constructive. If it wasn't for Lordy's constructive criticism early on, we wouldn't have had a Final Version thread. It it had not been for Lebrenth's comments later on, we wouldn't have the decision making that's taking place in this thread, and Hangover would be in Games by now. Let's draw a line under this now. I want to move on. ----------------------- Now I hope that we can all continue writing the closing chapters of the Hangover in the way that the most recent chapter has been written. At the moment I am catching up with the Final Version thread, and in a few days we'll start work on the next chapter, the Realm of Dead IFians. Watch this space! Back to top Author D-Lotus Venerable IFian Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 4123 Location: Hollywood, USA Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: It's true, sometimes I don't want to listen. But I hear the wisdom of your words, and I understand now what you are trying to do. After all, isn't storygaming essentially multi-authoring? I see it all now. And I admire you for your dedication to the process. And sorry for not being constructive- I'm just awfully destructive. I would still like to contribute, except I always run out of time. But I have been reading and following along. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: The Final Version of Hangover in the Tales of IF forum is completely up to date. Click on the pic in my sig to see it. Since there were a multitude of stories going on independently of one another for most of the time, I had to take the whole thing apart and string the posts together in a different order so that it could be pulled into coherent chapters. Any text in itallic is text that I have added to improve the flow of the story. Where the story was so fragmented for even this to be possible, the contents of some posts had to be rewritten elsewhere in the story, usually in the form of a conversation between characters. This appears in itallic, but the original authors are still recognised for it. In one chapter (chapter 19) it was so RP like that I had to rewrite the first half of the chapter from one perspective. However, nothing has been lost anywhere in the story, and all authors still get the recognition (by their icon) for what they have written. The only change made to the plot itself is in Chapter 9. Due to earlier disputes about the feasibility of Rai taking over and shutting down the TI, I have edited out all references to 'copying enchantments' on the map. Rai still manages to temporarily lock Jez in and shut down the TI, but it is written more of an opportunistic attempt under the influence of the fog. I hope both Rai and Jez are okay with this. There are still 4 posts outstanding that need to go into the story, 3 of Rai's (to form a chapter later on in the story) and 1 of Solus' which I really had trouble fitting in and keeping the flow. But they will go in - Solus' may need to be fragmented a bit and drip-fed in, though. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:55 am    Post subject: New Posting Guidelines for Hangover The last 8 posts of the Hangover was the best sequence of multi-authoring that we have had, and as a result, I was able to copy each post directly from the Hangover thread into the Final Version thread in the Tales of IF forum, with only minor spelling and grammatical edits to do. This is EXACTLY the result I wanted to achieve. Since each contribution was so easily transferrable, I am able to calculate the fables for each separately, and the authors of those posts will be getting credited. Here are some guidelines, to help everyone to multi-author. (We have a good example to follow in Chapter 24, so there should be no excuses!) These guidelines may need to be modified, depending on how well we do with it. 1. DO... Check the Discussion thread and make yourself aware of what we all agreed in the structure of the chapter before you post. How does it begin? How does it end? Are there any comments from the author of the most recent post? 2. DO... Follow on directly from the last post, as if you are continuing their narration. Take care to maintain continuity. If you are not sure about a detail you want to write about, ask in the Discussion thread. 3. DO... Check back to the Discussion thread once you have posted. Add your comments if there are certain things you want to explain about what you wrote, and any suggestions on what you want the next author to pick up. 3. DO... Watch the length of your post. Try and keep it less than 500 words if you can. There are no penalties if it is longer, but try to avoid massive lengths. 3. DO... Check the quality of your post. Spell check and grammar check. Write as if you want the Review Board to approve it. It is, after all, going to be tranfserred into the forum in the Fantasy Forest section. 1. DONT... Write a soliloquy. Also, writing the entire story as seen through your character's eyes is a little too 'RP', and does not flow well. 2. DONT... Write reams and reams about your character's traits or abilities, or introduce any new abilities so late on in the story, especially if it is for the sake of convenience in the plot. 3. DONT... Suddenly switch the POV, or write a separate, parallel plotline, that is not directly connected with the chapter in progress. If you feel a temporary POV switch is needed in a chapter, raise it in the Discussion thread first, so we all know what is happening. Provided that EVERYONE posts multi-author style, I will be able to keep a tally of fables earned for each contribution I transfer over, and credit them to the original authors. IF, however, these guidelines are not followed, it means I will have to do serious editing, and splice the contributions together with additional text edits to make the whole thing flow, (as I had to do with most of the rest of the Final Version thread) and I wont be able to credit any fables. Blatant RP style posts will be deleted on sight. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Crunchyfrog wrote: Okay, our next job is to deal with the Realm of Dead IFians. We've already got a setting... I've pulled together everything I could find that has been described about the Realm so far, for the sake of continuity. This is kind of what it looks like... The Realm of the Dead IFians so far contains a Tavern, called Ye Old IFian Tavern Club. It sells free unending drinks for the rest of eternity. In the bar, if you stand on one of the tables, you can pull down some attic steps, and climb up them. When you get to the top you step into a colourless void, as you climb onto the roof of the Tavern. From there you can see the bottom of the Soul Well. You can also somehow get underneath the Dream Chamber to a computer room where you can change your identity. We can assume that there is also a route to the Dream Chamber, from the roof of the Tavern. From the roof is also a room called Channel IF Broadcasting, where views of IF can be seen from various POV. I vote that this room is where you can communicate via mediums like Solus from Outside the Tavern although it is an idyllic landscape the sky is a mess. There are 3 great vortices in the sky, all there as a result of the cracking open of the Soul Well. Crunchyfrog has stuck a shard of crystal in the ground, and a permanent spark from the ground extends to the largest vortex in the sky, which has closed it a little. This is the 'patching up' job that Crunch was sent to do. There are about to be some ghasts and shades let loose into the Realm courtesy of Lordy (IM's latest post) so mayhem is about to ensue. Now we have to remember that Muaddib and co are not that interested in going back to IF and really want to be left on their own to enjoy their neverending drinks in the Tavern when this is all over. Perhaps the main structure of the chapter is a communication via Solus, followed by an escape by Crunch, Din, Smudge and Sasuke into the Dream Chamber, whilst Muaddib and co hold the fort against the ghasts and shades, and also keep Crunch's patch-up maintained? Any other ideas welcome! There were no other suggestions, so have posted a scene setter now. The last mention of the Realm of Dead IFians in the story was in one of Argonaut's posts, and runs as follows: Quote: "Dinranwen and Smudger have brought the dead IFians back, and they say the lost souls are draining out of the fog. But Muaddib says the realm of the dead can't take much more of the soul well's energy. If this isn't fixed soon, even the dead will have no place to live." Anyway, next author, please carry on from where I left off - remembering how this chapter should end! Any other ideas about what this chapter should contain, put 'em here! Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Some tense related trouble in the last 2 posts. IM's starts out in future tense from a new pov seemingly an interlude to forshaow the attack. Then he moves to past tense as the shades attack, but the last line is back to future. Din has taken this as just foreshadowing, and written from the pov before the attack. Also I'm not sure why Shogun is there. This is a bit confusing, seems like it should be cleaned up somehow. Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Okay guys I posted according to what CF asked and I hope it helps some. Maybe after mine would be and okay place to begin the scene from the shades and wraiths POV and the attack. Also, maybe as the attack begins, Din, Smudger, Crunchyfrog and Sasuke use this opportunity to do 3 things. 1.) They relocate the shard. 2.) They manage to enter the Dream Chamber and get in their own bodies. 3.) They go back as living IFians to inform everyone heading to the 'Important' spot of the situation in the Realm of the Dead IFians which would press the importance of getting the Soul Well fixed quickly and raise the suspense of the story as it approaches the climax. _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Good post, Lilith! IM's slots in nicely after yours, and with a little editing on the tense, when it goes over, it will be fine. I agree with your 3 points - but perhaps they can also forewarn D-Lotus via Solus, before they get to the Dream Chamber. I've continued it on now... Let's keep with the POV of Din, Crunch and Smudge, (They need to rescue Smudge before the wraiths get him, this should be fairly easy, and not get too much in the way of things) They'll will be able to see how Muaddib is doing from the Tavern roof, once they eventually get there. Unless of course they get herded back to where Muaddib is. Let's have a little mayhem for a short while, before they finally escape! Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Mayhem it is! Hopefully my fight scene is easy to understand. Once whoever's next figures out how they survive the fall (Sasuke can fly right? he might catch them) they better get on there way without too much more fighting. We really want everyone on there way to the important place for the grand finale Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: great!! agro.. now one question just how high is the place they are falling so I can post the next chapter, if it is high there might just be someway of getting a good secene in there. If it is a bit low and high, they'll live and I'd senmd the next thingy. EDIT: I hope you guys understand why I picked a tree branch first. It si not like Sasuke can go like superman and just grab them out the air. Hope you guys liked my post. The wraiths hated the highpitched sound. Ok Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: *looks shocked at Argo's post* Wow, it looks like Cooler than I thought. *giggles* One miraclous survival coming up.....I'll save myself and Smudge first, then I'll turn my post attention to Cruncy and Sasuke, who are trying to contact D via the TV room if that's okay with everyone else. I'm going to wait for permission to switch views before I do so though, I don't want to create any more chaos than there already is. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Ah, Din, you got to this thread before I did... I was posting in Hangover at the same time you were posting here so you probably read the latest story before I submitted my post... You'd written somewhere earlier about shadow beings being able to completely flatten themselves so I used that idea as your survival route... All the heroes are in the Tavern now, and another IFian is holding the wraiths back outside with the sword... Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Good posts all! And great action from Din, Argo and Nightshade! May have to do a bit of editing re the sudden appearance of a mountain... it would have been too difficult to miss beforehand. But a large tree I can work with. I was also guilty of a continuity blooper regarding Sasuke's whereabouts before he rescued the others, but I've fixed that now. Nice twist, IM, this could add some extra suspense right at the end.... Sasuke as a kind of hostage... - although again, because of the sudden POV change, it will probably slot in nicely at the end of this chapter. Okay, for the next author, Crunchy is already in the Channel IF room, so when the others join him, they need to contact D via Solus. Then they can leave, and the chapter is done! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next chapter (Chapter 26) is a bit open. Shall we go back to D and co? Or shall we switch to Lordy? I also have 3 posts of Rai's still to insert as a chapter - that deals with her meeting up with Key and Smee, as the Time curse comes to an end, and they all reconstitute ready for the finale. Just trying to time it right, as to when it should be fitted in. Lets have some ideas! Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: All posts in Chapter 25 have been copied over to the final version thread in the Tales of IF forum now, and fables have been transferred! Just need one more post now from somebody, to finish off this chapter, (Din, Crunchy, Smudger and Sasuke warning D-Lotus and co via Solus, that not much time is left) and then we're on to the final chapter! Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: As promised, CF, I gave it a whirl... let me know if anything is inaccurate or needs to be changed! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: So now what.......Now that is over, where to next? Personally, I vote for the view from Lordy....since I don't think we've had any chapters from his view, other than sort post here and there that is, and it might be interesting to see the expression (so to speak) on his face as all his precious plans go up in smoke. Unless of course, anyone else has any ideas? Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Well done everyone, Chapter 25 is now wrapped up! I'm going to copy Liliths's post over soon, and slot it in in front of IM's. Well, I was thinking Lordy's POV too... Because also that is where everyone else is going to end up, and where the finale is most likely to take place. Lordy has not written up his 'needlessly complicated plan' that everyone is about to come in and foil. This chapter would be the time to reveal it. Maybe even an appearane by the Greater Evil should happen in this chapter.. Any more ideas? Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Well, small nudges in the form of PM's would help me know when to write in Lordy-mode. I know what the 'weapon' is, and I know what the speech is going to be when D finds Lordy. It's going to carefully avoid saying one word, which will be the key trigger to sending Lordy, and all the power of the Soul Well, to Hell. And if D is smart, he'll avoid saying it as well. ...Unless Lordy wants to do it, naturally. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Cool! I have an idea for the jester hat to complete the Rai time-loop - When Rai arrives at Lordy's lair, she needs to write the note to herself on the jester hat and throw it into the past. The note tells her that she had to destroy herself when obtaining the last ingredient to the spell. That will explain the appearance of the jester hat at the Council meeting earlier on in the story, and allow for her gem containing the ingredients to appear at the right moment. It will also prevent Rai from meeting another copy of herself. Quote: I'm going to copy Liliths's post over soon, and slot it in in front of IM's. BTW it was not necessary to switch the post order around in the end, it worked quite well as it was. We need some more ideas to build this chapter with! What else can we include? Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: I just realised I never got around to writing up my original, evil, and needlessly complicated plan. So I'll do (or at least start) it now. Well, it started with the revolution of the City. My various allies and contacts around IF (which include several prominant moderators, whose names I won't disclose now) were all told certain portions of the plan, so no-one else knew the full story. I'm just canny like that. The overall, final, outcome was to be the complete takeover of the entire country, and the near en-slavement of the population of IF, OF, AHA ect. Of course, the population wouldn't realise their enslavement, as that would merely lead to discontent. And that's bad kiddies. You should always do what your overlord tells you. I was planning to do this via a complicated series of manuveres, starting with IF. It just so happened, that I chose to carry out my cunning ploy at a time when China was away. This was, of course, deliberately chosen, as with China away, and Key (soon to be) incapable of action, I have the most power in IF. *does a little jig* Binding Key was ridiculously easy. The King is seen rarely in the city at the best of times, though I knew he does keep watch over us. I simply removed his power, and left him unable to function without aid. Killing him would have effected the balance of the City, so I was forced to leave him alive. Stage One - Become IF's Most Powerful Member - Check ______________________ My contacts in OF are well known to vetern members of the city, as is the on-going tension between the two neighbours. Throughout (insert period of time here) my agents within OF had been infiltrating to higher levels of power and authority. Famous OFian generals, such as Mal-Fait, are actually nothing more than pawns and allies of me, and my insidious plotting. For a several month period, I had one of my IFian agents systimatically eliminating key members of the opposition of OF, allowing my OFians agents to take their place. Tensions were reaching an all-time straining point (which almost makes sense) and diplomatic measures were going downhill fast. It was only a matter of time before all-out war was declared, something I have been pressing, both in the council, and with my agents in OF, for some time. Stage Two - War with OF - Check _____________________________ While my control over IF was already impressive, I knew I would need something extra to gain acceptance. With cunningly spread rumours, I was able to incite the people of IF against their tyrannical rulers. I leaked information about the Great Banishment, and whipped the mods into a frenzy against China and (to a lesser extant) Key. Of course, with neither availible to be found due to their conventiant disappearences, the crowd would continue to grow impatient. The attack by OF was going to be my oppurtunity to quell the rioting, standing up for the position of King myself. It was 'not going to be something I desired', but 'something I was doing for the good of IF'. Or so I would lead the crowd to believe. Stage Three - Drag the Rulers Name through the mud - Check ______________________________ When we went to war, I knew that IF would have to emerge victorious. However, even with my sheer tactical genious, and the advantage posed by my agents, I still wanted more of a guarentee of victory. Because of my powerful postion, I had already seen the master-map of IF, which revealed the location of the legendary Soul-Well. Through extensive research, I (and one of my mod allies) discovered that to utilise the power of the Soul Well, I would need three key 'ingrediants'. The Blood of the Beginning (Yeah, alright. I forgot the other names. But I got Rai to pick them up anyways. Bone and Flesh I think it was) As it happened, gaining each of these ingrediants required a sacrifice. Someone had to die to disarm the wards around them. So, first Rai was going to send some plucky 'volunteer' into each room, then pick up the ingrediant. I was going to unlock the Soul Well, and use the power within to gain complete control over the city, as opposed to using the rioting crowds. Then, with clever speechs and the like, I would inspire the other mods to follow my lead, and destroy the OFian army. Stage Four - Become God-like and Conquer OF - In progess _________________________________ After conquering OF, I would set myself up as a Merciful and generous King, one under which both cities would prosper. Any taxes, or public beatings would always be blamed on someone else, even if for the good of the Land. Dissentors would obviously be killed off, under various 'accidents' or tried for other crimes and imprisioned. The Army would expand naturally. I would use cunning points of logic, such as - if 25% of the city was unable to make OF victorious, we shall have to make it 75%. A true war-force. While in IF - OF now have 75% of their citizens in the army, we must match them, ect ect. While ruling over both cities, it is evident neither would be entirely trustful of the other, a fact I would work on to play against the other. Once both armies were suffiecent, I would move onto the next City-State in the coutry, under pretences such as 'My spies say they are preparing for war', and 'An army has been mobilised to bring us down.' Always inspring the people to war, rather than forcing them. (Of course, they would have no choice, but they wouldn't know that). Obviously my armies would emerge victorious, and the process would begin again. Stage Five - Become Ruler of the Country - in progress _______________________________ There have been a few 'hiccups' in the plan so far, but I could still pull it off. *fingers crossed* _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: A very insidious plot, if truth be told Lordy... you seem to have thought this through thoroughly for it to be that in depth.... *winks* Best of luck.. although I know for a fact that it won't work and for one tiny little reason.. anyone wanna take a guess at what it is? _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject: That is indeed, an evil, and needlessly complicated plan! Coupla bits I don't get... First, I didn't realise there was already a war with OF... Also Quote: I leaked information about the Great Banishment, and whipped the mods into a frenzy against China and (to a lesser extant) Key. Was this achieved by Lordy and the Greater Evil creating the Greater Evil gas? What about the whispers of the souls in the fog? They already had bad sentiments towards Chinaren, as he had expelled them in the first place... How does the Greater Evil fit in with the evil and needlessly complicated plan? (see below) Argonaut wrote: If we're going with IM's post then it appears that Lordy is working for the Greater evil, who is supplying Lordy with minions. Of course, that doesn't mean that Lordy isn't planning to double-cross the GE This would mean Lordy was working for the GE in exchange for a piece of the action when the GE takes over. However he always planned to destroy the GE and take his place as ruler when the time came. So my proposal for what happens in the end is that our heroes stop Lordy at a crucial moment, foiling his double-cross and actually allowing the GE to come to power. Then everyone will need to band together somehow, even Lordy, to destroy or banish the GE. How does that sound? lordofthenight wrote: I preferred Argo's idea personally. Having the IFians accidently ruin my needlessly complicated plan would give a classic Scooby-Doo line, while still giving me a reason to stop the GE. I can still try and take control of the city after defeating the GE afterall. Most likely, the GE is after destruction of IF, and possibly the entire country (hence using the Soul Well). With the ingredients though, Lordy would be able to harness the power of the Soul Well, betraying the GE, and leading to gaining control. Plus, it explains why I wasn't going around getting them myself - the GE could have been keeping tabs on me, so I enlisted Rai's help. Btw, if anyone wants to hear my original elaborate, needlessly complicated (and now slightly editted) plan in full, just say so. I'll write it up. Just trying to fit it all in together. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Well, the war with OF itself hasn't started. But the tension is there. If you look in character posts throughout the city, for instance, the news reports, you'll see it building. Quote: I leaked information about the Great Banishment, and whipped the mods into a frenzy against China and (to a lesser extant) Key. That was actually meant to say crowds, not mods. Whipped the crowds into a frenzy (the mods are obviously still normal). _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Okay, so far are we happy to write this from Lordy's POV? And are we still going with Argo's idea? Argonaut wrote: If we're going with IM's post then it appears that Lordy is working for the Greater evil, who is supplying Lordy with minions. Of course, that doesn't mean that Lordy isn't planning to double-cross the GE This would mean Lordy was working for the GE in exchange for a piece of the action when the GE takes over. However he always planned to destroy the GE and take his place as ruler when the time came. So my proposal for what happens in the end is that our heroes stop Lordy at a crucial moment, foiling his double-cross and actually allowing the GE to come to power. Then everyone will need to band together somehow, even Lordy, to destroy or banish the GE. How does that sound? Any other ideas to throw into the pot? Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: I agree Crunchy. Let's do this people! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: I've got an idea of what he could possibly want, which I think should follow what we've got so far. I'll give a brief run-through. I've made a pact with the Greater Evil, for a bunch of reasons. What he wants is to be freed from the Soul Well, where he was accidently imprisioned thousands of years before. The Greater Evil was trying to unleash its power then, but an earthquake trapped his essence in the well, where he's been ever since. Over the centuries he lost contact with his pawns remaining in the world, as they died out/stopped believing in a trapped deity. With no followers and no hope of rescue, he fell into a deep, sleep-like state. Unconciously, he influcenced many of the evil deeds that occur through-out the world, but with neither party aware of the contact. So it was when Key relocated the City of IF on it's current spot, the Greater Evil remained unaware. In fact, it was only Chinaren's recent use of the Soul Well that stirrred its conciousness. The magical properties of the Well served the Mayor's purpose to get rid of the souls, yet instead of merely fading into the aether, the Greater Evil devoured them, and had his powers invigorated. With power once more, the Greater Evil managed to contact Lordy, who he believed he could manipulate into releasing him. However, he soon learned that Lordy would have no problems releasing an evil deity on the world, even if it meant damning the entire country (Lordy's evil like that). The two allied - Lordy would free the Greater Evil, and in return recieve a portion of his power, and dominion over IF. However, Lordy wanted more, and so assigned Rai to collect the three ingrediants he'd need to gain the full power of the Soul Well for himself, and banish the Greater Evil completely. Then use the Soul Well's power to do pretty much the same thing the Greater Evil was. The plan has to back-fire, when somehow the adventurers disrupt the ritual, and actually set the Greater Evil free. Thoughts? (And, I'd actually like to write some of this myself, seeing how otherwise Lordy always appears a bit of a bastard. As opposed to the kind, caring guy he really is). _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: I think that is a great idea, Lordy. A couple of bits need to be altered, to fit in with D-Lotus's revelations at the Council meeting. Here are some suggestions, see what you think... lordofthenight wrote: What he wants is to be freed from the Soul Well, where he was accidently imprisioned thousands of years before. The Greater Evil was trying to unleash its power then, but an earthquake trapped his essence in the well, where he's been ever since. Over the centuries he lost contact with his pawns remaining in the world, as they died out/stopped believing in a trapped deity. With no followers and no hope of rescue, he fell into a deep, sleep-like state. Unconciously, he influcenced many of the evil deeds that occur through-out the world, but with neither party aware of the contact. So it was when Key relocated the City of IF on it's current spot, the Greater Evil remained unaware. In fact, it was only Chinaren's recent use of the Soul Well that stirrred its conciousness. The magical properties of the Well served the Mayor's purpose to get rid of the souls, yet instead of merely fading into the aether, the Greater Evil devoured them, and had his powers invigorated. This works really well! It offers a good explanation as to why the Greater Evil was there in the first place. The only alteration I would suggest is that the Greater Evil has been feeding from the power of the souls rather than devouring the souls themselves, since the souls have been leaking out through the crack in the well for much of the story. Quote: With power once more, the Greater Evil managed to contact Lordy, who he believed he could manipulate into releasing him. However, he soon learned that Lordy would have no problems releasing an evil deity on the world, even if it meant damning the entire country (Lordy's evil like that). Okay, D-Lotus has already gone on record as discovering the Greater Evil opening up the crack in the Soul Well in Smee's basement. D-Lotus killed the Greater Evil (or at least thought he did) and lost consciousness. When he came to, he found himself a prisoner of Lordy, who announced that he was going to fully open the well, using the 3 ingredients he had sent Rai to find. We would need to weave this in somehow - perhaps after being contacted subconsciously by the Greater Evil, Lordy drew the Greater Evil's power sufficiently to allow the Greater Evil to project a physical manifestation of itself in Smee's basement, so that it could set about cracking open the Soul Well. That was when Lotus came in and almost foiled the plan by destroying that physical manifestation. Although it has granted minions to Lordy to use, the Greater Evil is still essentially trapped, because there is not enough power still to fully, physically release it. At least until the adventurers stumble upon Lordy at the end. How does that sound? Quote: The two allied - Lordy would free the Greater Evil, and in return recieve a portion of his power, and dominion over IF. However, Lordy wanted more, and so assigned Rai to collect the three ingrediants he'd need to gain the full power of the Soul Well for himself, and banish the Greater Evil completely. Then use the Soul Well's power to do pretty much the same thing the Greater Evil was. The plan has to back-fire, when somehow the adventurers disrupt the ritual, and actually set the Greater Evil free. Ah right, so does that mean the adventurers need to arrive after Rai and her gem arrives? So they actually stumble in, in the middle of the spell? Quote: Thoughts? (And, I'd actually like to write some of this myself, seeing how otherwise Lordy always appears a bit of a bastard. As opposed to the kind, caring guy he really is). Indeed. Better the devil you know, in this case! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Crunchyfrog wrote: Quote: The two allied - Lordy would free the Greater Evil, and in return recieve a portion of his power, and dominion over IF. However, Lordy wanted more, and so assigned Rai to collect the three ingrediants he'd need to gain the full power of the Soul Well for himself, and banish the Greater Evil completely. Then use the Soul Well's power to do pretty much the same thing the Greater Evil was. The plan has to back-fire, when somehow the adventurers disrupt the ritual, and actually set the Greater Evil free. Ah right, so does that mean the adventurers need to arrive after Rai and her gem arrives? So they actually stumble in, in the middle of the spell? That seems best to me. Otherwise, the entire plot-line with Rai gathering the items, and sacrificing herself is actually a bit pointless, as it will never bear relevance on the story. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Okay, so mapping this out (sort of) We start with Lordy in his lair. The Greater Evil is not present, since this whole chapter hinges on the Greater Evil being fully released/reconstituted. Rai arrives. Rai writes note to herself in Lordy's jester hat, and flings it through a convenient portal back in time, so that she can read it at the Council Meeting that was held at dawn. The gem with the 3 ingredients arrive. Lordy prepares for the spell. IM, D, Lebby, Jez, Solus, Polokin, Lilith and Nightshade arrive, mucking up the spell, and accidentally freeing the GE to do doom and destruction wherever it wishes. General utter mayhem ensues. Everyone works together to contain the GE and close the well. Insert 'THE END' here. Somewhere in the procedings we also need to include: - the arrival of Dinranwen, Crunch and Smudger, - the recital of Lordy's needlessly complicated plan - the wraiths and shades returning the captured Sasuke to Lordy - the undoing of the backwards spell on IM, Lilith and Nightshade There is also Polokin's secret weapon, BStheGreat... oh yes, what fun! And we also left four other co-authors somewhere out in the city... we could have them present for the finale too! More ideas, please, then we can all start writing! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: I take it Sasuke is going to find himself as the final sacrifice to open the Soul Well, and 'free' the GE then? _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Well, since Suke hasn't been around for awhile, I am guessing he doesn't really have much say in the matter... I agree with Lordy. *looks at everyone* What? I agree with him one time and you look at me like I am crazy! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: lordofthenight wrote: I take it Sasuke is going to find himself as the final sacrifice to open the Soul Well, and 'free' the GE then? That sounds like an excellent idea! I've just read through Rai's last 3 posts, (which I have not yet posted as the most recent chapter of the final version) her character has Smee and Key with her. If the 'Devourer' has been sent to get her, or more specifically, the gems, it may be better to write it in as her coming in with the 'Devourer'. (obviously still without gem) Perhaps we should not directly include Key and Smee in the finale, and limit it to the author-characters only. (That would also include Weaver, Xansta, BS, China and Argo, if we need them at any point, BTW! ) Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: I always keep a handy "deus ex machina" in my pocket in case someone writes us into a corner Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: What I had intended: A long, winded speech to come out of Lordy's mouth when D & co stumbled upon him, which carefully avoided the use of the word 'it.' When somebody said, "You'll never get away with it, Lordy!" then Lordy would vanish, because that would have been the trigger word for the release of the spell. Lordy to leave behind a small present: A single mote of Refined Stupidium. He somehow got a hold of some Stupidium and put it through machines similar to the ones that refine Idearium into Ideas. However, this made the Stupidium far more deadly, as it doesn't even need to be near something to start turning it into Stupidium. What I think: You've got great ideas, you lot. I see I'll have to cut back on the Idearium I'm putting in the water supply... The 'undoing' of the curse should be a spell that somebody else has to say, but only IM knows, which makes it a rather peculiar situation. He can only write backwards and hope that somebody can read his weird handwriting. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Cool ideas, IM! The 'it' idea can still be woven into writing Lordy's Needlessly Complicated Plan. When somebody says 'You'll never get away with it Lordy', this could be when it mucks up his spell with the 3 ingredients, and accidentally releases the Greater Evil. And having a verbally challenged IM being the key person to help with undoing the curse, and helping to close the Soul Well... (after all, he is the only Mage in the group!) is a must! Perhaps entitling the final chapter 'Better the Devil You Know' might be appropriate. Both Lordy and the Greater Evil wanted to dominate IF and beyond, and our heroes end up working with Lordy. Although Lordy will have to concede to closing the Soul Well and therefore not get to use its power to rule everything just now, he will live to plot his dastardly deeds another day... Another day or so to collect any more ideas, and then we can start writing! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: It? Do you know how hard it is to write a decent speech without using the word it? Why not have some really obsure word, which obviously no-one would ever say - unless that person happened to be speaking backwards at the time, and didn't mean it? Of course, the word wouldn't be in English - some form of Daemenia or Sersuporic would be best. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: I should know...I wrote it up! _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Why dont you write it down here, IM? It is obvious some serious thought has gone into this final chapter, and we should pull the best of everything everyone has to make it work. Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Quote: Thoughts? (And, I'd actually like to write some of this myself, seeing how otherwise Lordy always appears a bit of a bastard. As opposed to the kind, caring guy he really is). who ever said you where a bastard? It is only the story charrecter not your self. and It wasn't you who freaked me out only the hat and red saying evil. that was all. And I have nothing to say in the matter of the plot I NEED to catch up. And sure the ideas are all right there. Back to top Author Sasuke Resident Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Innistrad Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: uh I'm back so please don't kill me (pwetty pwease *sweet little cuddly thing mode*) *two seconds later* I CAN'T DO THIS I'm sorry for not contributing Crunchy, I promise to be better That is all Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Right, here we go then... 'Ah, I see you all got past the Destroyer. That must have been some battle...Too bad I wasn't there to aid him, otherwise you'd not be standing here. You all must think I'm quite the madman, mad-daemon, whatever. The truth is, this was a complicated plan, and right now this plan happens to be hanging by strings that are rapidly fraying. However, telling you what has been going on won't hurt me, seeing as I hold all the power here. I did away with Key and Smee, so that I would become IF's most powerful person. Key couldn't actually be harmed, otherwise fail safes around the city would have gone up in response, so I merely transformed him. Smee wasn't harmed either, just time-transplaced. The rumors I've been spreading throughout IF against Key and China, who are both conveniently 'missing,' would incite the masses and whip them into a bloodthirsty frenzy. Once I held this position of power for long enough, my agents in OF would have instigated a war with IF, and I would have lead IF to victory, thus calming the citizens through the heat of warfare. IF would naturally never accept OFian citizens, and vice versa, thus giving me revenue as repair jobs became more common and public floggings were held daily by people other than me. Of course, I was missing one thing...power. Sheer, raw, heaping power. That was what Rai was for, to gather the ingredients I needed. I see now I should never have trusted that dragoness, for only with the power of the Soul Well behind me can I conquer OF and be a kind, benevolent, God-like ruler of both cities. And with them, I would go on to conquer AHA, OHO, IS, and even THE. I might even be able to bring an army across the Fanta Sea and conquer what lands lie over there...after dealing with you.' Now I will be the first to admit that 'it' shows up, but only as parts of other words. The word 'it' itself does not stand alone, and trust me, it makes all the difference in spells that you be precise as possible. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: I think I've seen more than enough Bond films to know you never go through and reveal your plans in minute detail, no matter how close you are to winning. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:26 am    Post subject: Just to prove that 'it' can be done without saying the word 'it' - that was amazing, IM! Both speeches go along the same lines, so if we go with Lordy's we only have to replace the word 'it' with the noun 'it' refers to. As the speech goes on, it becomes more and more obvious to the reader what word Lordy is trying to dance around. The more obvious it becomes, the greater impact the 'forehead slapping moment' will have when the spell is mucked up. BTW, Lordy's speech is very long, and doesn't have to be executed all in one post, either. Okay, so to recap (mixing all the ideas together) We start with Lordy in his lair. The Greater Evil is not present, since this whole chapter hinges on the Greater Evil being fully released/reconstituted. Rai arrives. (Rai has somehow, between the end of her last chapter, and arriving at Lordy's lair, managed to lose Smee and Key, and fought off the Devourer. This needs to be revealed somehow, this could be done as dialogue between Rai and Lordy, or maybe some way Lordy has of watching it happen before she arrives... or some other way, perhaps.) Rai writes note to herself in Lordy's jester hat, and flings it through a convenient portal back in time, so that she can read it at the Council Meeting that was held at dawn. Once she has done this it completes the timeloop and the gem with the 3 ingredients arrive. Lordy prepares for the spell to harness the power of the Soul Well. IM, D, Lebby, Jez, Solus, Polokin, Lilith and Nightshade arrive, mucking up the spell, (using the 'it' word during the explanation of the Needlessly Complicated Plan) thereby accidentally freeing the GE to do doom and destruction wherever it wishes. General utter mayhem ensues. Everyone works together to contain the GE and close the well, the key ingredient to this being some chance backwards speaking by IM. Insert 'THE END' here. Somewhere in the procedings we also need to include: - the arrival of Dinranwen, Crunch and Smudger, - the recital of Lordy's needlessly complicated plan - the wraiths and shades returning the captured Sasuke to Lordy - the undoing of the backwards spell on IM, Lilith and Nightshade There is also Polokin's secret weapon, BStheGreat... oh yes, what fun! There are four other co-authors still out there in the city that can be used in this finale! This is the basic plot but it is still nebulous enough for us to get creative, and I think we can sort out any remaining questions now as we write. Okay, Chapter title going up in a minute... Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: This ia great cruncer!!! Ok I have and ending... use a scroll to take the back words speaking away found somewhere on the ground or lordly has it in his lair... try loreng lordly with something to get him to be where you want him to be, like a swap for the two for like erm rai's body or lilith then we attack the well goes ca boelie and well then lordly laughes and does what he wants to do... or something in that direction, still voting for well going boom!!! Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: According to your post, Crunchy, Jez has my gem now. I seemingly went insane and tried to call him in the tunnel, was overpowered, and lost the gem, so I can't call him anymore Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Good spot, Polokin! and glad you're back! Okay, they're all together, so perhaps when the time is right Polokin can snatch it back from Jez when there is a need for complete and utter mayhem... Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Did I see a need for complete and utter mayhem? Okay then, you asked for it! Your order will be ready for pick-up in.. 3..2.. EDIT: .... 1! Your total comes to .. a gazillion Fables. Thank-you and have a nice day! Just kidding! Okay, I have brought in Kalanna, Key and Smee into Lordy's sanctum.. She took care of the Destroyer, no sweat and also sent herself the note on the jester hat in the past. Once Key and Smee are gone, Lordy and Rai can discuss the gem and how to get it back before our heroes can stop their little plan. Meanwhile, we might want some background on the fight going on between the Devourer and our heroes. And I didn't put that in myself because I can't remember who is all where!!!!!!!!!!! or how many? (8 friends + IM= 9 maybe?) _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Right now that I've caught up I'll introduce the gem and start the spell if there are no objections... _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: What we think would work best (Crunchy and I talking on chat that is) would be for Lordy to transport everyone to the Soul Well himself, for the unvealling of the N.C.P. (Needlessly Complicated Plan), and then the Unbinding ceremony. Obviously, I'm not going to do that until I think I'm secure, which involves me capturing the 'adventurers', tying them up, and then bringing them along for the show. I don't think the Devourer is really the sort of entity who really understands 'capturing' people, so you'll have to work your way round that yourself. Capturing you will probably be the result of magic - or prehaps the threat of magic (details can be sorted out later). Then, I'll transport everyone in the room to the Soul Well (most of whom will still be bound at this point). The transportation will involve much gut-wrentching, vomit inducing agony for anyone from this plane of existance. Effectively, the molecules of your body are going to be stripped down to their atomical state, transported through time/space, (just space in this instance), and then hastily replaced. Enjoy. After that, we can work on the particulars of the spell, and the breaking of it. EDIT: One thought. Prehaps someone could get left behind by the spell? Arrives too late, and so doesn't get 'ported. They could then make their own to the Soul Well, using the Key's Map which Rai kept hold of, and then accidently dropped as the 'porting began. Therefore, they could be the one who bursts in during the ritual, and disrupts it. The others could then be gagged at this point, which would be far more sensible. EDIT AGAIN: I've put a post in the story. The spell to release the GE is nearly prepared, and only requires one final bit of the incantation. I tried to explain what D did in Smee's house slightly as well - it wasn't the GE, it was either Lordy in disguise, or one of his many minions opening portal to the Abyss under Smee's house. The conversation with Rai should hopefully delay them long enough for the heroes to arrive. I also expect there's going to be some structural damage to the cavern and tunnels, which could could falling rubble to bother the adventurers. Also, the screaming could well have greatly affected the Devourer (who could then be hit by falling rubble), as otherwise I'm not sure the heroes could get past him. Magical immunity does that to a detizen of the pit. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: For the benefit of Masterweaver - this was posted on 14th March. Crunchyfrog wrote: New Posting Guidelines for Hangover The last 8 posts of the Hangover was the best sequence of multi-authoring that we have had, and as a result, I was able to copy each post directly from the Hangover thread into the Final Version thread in the Tales of IF forum, with only minor spelling and grammatical edits to do. This is EXACTLY the result I wanted to achieve. Since each contribution was so easily transferrable, I am able to calculate the fables for each separately, and the authors of those posts will be getting credited. Here are some guidelines, to help everyone to multi-author. (We have a good example to follow in Chapter 24, so there should be no excuses!) These guidelines may need to be modified, depending on how well we do with it. 1. DO... Check the Discussion thread and make yourself aware of what we all agreed in the structure of the chapter before you post. How does it begin? How does it end? Are there any comments from the author of the most recent post? 2. DO... Follow on directly from the last post, as if you are continuing their narration. Take care to maintain continuity. If you are not sure about a detail you want to write about, ask in the Discussion thread. 3. DO... Check back to the Discussion thread once you have posted. Add your comments if there are certain things you want to explain about what you wrote, and any suggestions on what you want the next author to pick up. 3. DO... Watch the length of your post. Try and keep it less than 500 words if you can. There are no penalties if it is longer, but try to avoid massive lengths. 3. DO... Check the quality of your post. Spell check and grammar check. Write as if you want the Review Board to approve it. It is, after all, going to be tranfserred into the forum in the Fantasy Forest section. 1. DONT... Write a soliloquy. Also, writing the entire story as seen through your character's eyes is a little too 'RP', and does not flow well. 2. DONT... Write reams and reams about your character's traits or abilities, or introduce any new abilities so late on in the story, especially if it is for the sake of convenience in the plot. 3. DONT... Suddenly switch the POV, or write a separate, parallel plotline, that is not directly connected with the chapter in progress. If you feel a temporary POV switch is needed in a chapter, raise it in the Discussion thread first, so we all know what is happening. Provided that EVERYONE posts multi-author style, I will be able to keep a tally of fables earned for each contribution I transfer over, and credit them to the original authors. IF, however, these guidelines are not followed, it means I will have to do serious editing, and splice the contributions together with additional text edits to make the whole thing flow, (as I had to do with most of the rest of the Final Version thread) and I wont be able to credit any fables. Blatant RP style posts will be deleted on sight. Masterweaver, an RP post is where you are playing and controlling the role of one character. We are narrating a story that happens to contain characters we introduced. RP posts do not flow. We are co-authoring a story where there should be no obvious join between the posts. For example if we run your post on directly from the previous one: Quote: "The overall, final, outcome was to be the complete takeover of the entire country, and the near en-slavement of the population of IF, OF, AHA etc. Of course, the population wouldn't realise their enslavement, as that would merely lead to discontent. And that's bad kiddies. You should always do what your overlord tells you." Din feigned a gasp, hoping that it would encourage Lordy to continue. "But how did you do that...?" asked Smudger. The last thing Masterweaver had remembered was being knocked out by the earthquake. Technically, that wasn't true. The last thing he remembered were abunch of vauge dreams about a shrine of uber and a lightning bolt, but he discounted these. The story does not flow, and the remainder of the post did not consider the planning efforts in the discussion thread. For an example of good co-authoring, look at chapters 24 and 25 in the Hangover in the Tales of IF forum. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: I just introduced the Orb of Redundancy. Does this count a a soliloquy? EDIT: How to use the Orb. Step one: Hold Orb. Step two: Become incomprehensible while in the sway of the Orb. Step three: Write with other hand. Step Four: drop Orb. Step five: Recover. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Weaver, the 'Orb of Redundancy' WOULD nicely explain why the well is cracking up. If you cast the same spell multiple times, after all, it tends to affect the environment in adverse ways. The fact that the environment is the Soul Well is a bonus for Lordy. HOWEVER! You've used the word 'it.' Multiple times. Eliminate 'it' and we'll keep your post. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: If MW does not edit it, I'll get Lordy to do it. Besides, there is a continuity problem with Polokin speaking, he is gagged. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Crunchyfrog wrote: If MW does not edit it, I'll get Lordy to do it. Besides, there is a continuity problem with Polokin speaking, he is gagged. I thought Polokin's phrase was pretty good mind you. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Edited. _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: I still see the word 'it.' MW, eliminate it or eliminate the post. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Edited. Again... _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: *cackles evilly* Sasuke has uttered the word 'it' ! Let chaos ensue! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: The beginning of the chain reaction of the 'it' word has started. This will culminate in the release of the Greater Evil. Polokin has the blue orb that will summon BStheGreat. BStheGreat is a complete psycopath who has it in for D-Lotus. I think it rather fun for D-Lotus to be used as human bait for BS to attack the GE at some point. Sounds good? Just an idea, use it anyone, if they like. Okay, this is all looking rather bad, for everyone now, even Lordy is looking worried. So, more chaos please... Back to top Author Masterweaver Honored Citizen Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: Look around Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Is my idea okay? _________________ Sarothen, Mesoli, Gerastro /\___/\ (0)-_-(0) | | \//\\/ ? | \ | | ||| \ / |,||| ,|| \/ Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: I didn't like it MW. I was thinking more of having the Greater Evil never really described, just more as a presence. Afterall, this is an entity that has been trapped in the Soul Well so long time forget about it, and I'd think it'd take a bit longer to escape. Plus, no description we ever do would really suit it, unless each character saw a twisted reflection of itself. And the zooming out is completely pointless. Especially as this is still set in early January, long before the elections started. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: I like Lordy's idea better...and if everyone agrees, I might just have a way of fixing with a post or two. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Go for it, Din. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: There you go CrunchFrog. One nameless, shapeless, lump of GE who takes the shape of it's viewers worse fears! A suggestion I took from Lordy, *curties to Lordy* I hope everyone approves of his idea....I thought it was simply brillant so I used it. So, take it from where I left off.....I wanted to make the GE disappear but wasn't sure if I should so I left it hanging and open for the next writer. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Great stuff, Din! Not everyone was ungagged at that point, but I can edit my previous post so that more of them are, it's no biggie. Also they were in a cavern, not a study, but I will edit that on the transfer over to the Tales of IF forum. IM, you're going too fast.... Your post has been removed, for a number of reasons, one of them is that it is RP. But it has been copied here. The ideas can be worked with.... Quote: The GE was nowhere to be found, as it had used one of the classical escape routes in fantasy stories: a blinding flash of light to conceal the teleportation. Okay, we can work with this. The GE is out of control, as we had already planned, Lordy did not want the GE to take over, so everyone now has a common evil. So now everyone has to pull together to close up the Soul Well. Quote: "Screw this," IM said, and recited the counter-curse to the mirror curse backwards. There was a shimmering effect that started at IM, spread to Lilith, and ended at Crady. IM does not know how to undo the mirror curse, otherwise he would have done it earlier, wouldn't he? This makes no sense. Lordy is the only one who can undo it, and Lordy has to realise that everyone has to work together before he does so. Also we had agreed that a backwards word would be the key to closing the Soul Well. Quote: "Can everyone understand me NOW?!" IM fairly shrieked. The others in the cavern jumped a wee bit backwards at the anger in IM's voice. "I'll take that as a 'yes'. Come on, then, we have to get to the surface quickly, there's no telling what that thing will do." IM quickly teleported everyone topside, in the middle of the City square. "What will we do now?" Sasuke asked. IM's eyes held a blazing glory that hardly ever showed, except in times of extreme peril when none others were taking charge. "We take charge and do all we can. Sasuke, Lilith, go and get as many people from Fantasy Forest as possible. Rai, Din, go unleash Jester park. D and Polokin, work on getting BS here without killing anyone. Crunchy, Weaver, go get the Games sector. I'm going to work on a spell of fear-resist for the masses. Lordy, if you'd be so kind, find out if there's any weaknesses of that thing or if there's a way to seal it up again before it gets here. QUICKLY, people! I'm also going to contact a few mods, see if Skiffyville can't get over here as well, we're going to need all the help we can get." IM stood in the center of City Central, watching his friends and fellow moderators disperse. He quickly contacted Leberanth. "Lebby?" Leb's face appeared hovering above his ring. "IM! What-" IM cut him off. "Listen, you need to get Skiffyville over to City Central immediately! We have a crisis and everyone is being press-ganged into a militia!" IM cut off to contemplate his fear-resist spell. It was then he realized he was like another great wizard in a trilogy not to be named here. He was standing between the Greater Evil and the City, and he was very, very much alone. "Hello, magus." IM turned and saw the thing for what it really was this time, namely, a formless pile of jelly. "Oh, crud," IM whispered, before the thing lunged at him, growing a neck, a head, a mouth, teeth, very sharp and very large teeth... The rest of this is pretty much RP - your character has just taken over the situation, and moved it away from the planned chapter, which was to close the Soul Well at the site of the Soul Well, with all the characters present.... I have just posted, based on the planned chapter. As previously planned in this thread, more characters are being brought into the finale - Chinaren is there now, and BStheGreat is being summoned. The Greater Evil has explained his incarceration as per Lordy's idea earlier in the discussion thread, and also as previously discussed, everyone is beginning to realise that they now have no option but to work together. We had decided that a reverse spoken word would close the Soul Well, and I have an idea that since there are 3 ingredients, and 3 people who are speaking backwards, that it might be cool if each of them should hold one ingredient and recite something backwards to close the well? But Lordy will have to instruct them, whilst the mayhem is going on around them, distracting the Greater Evil... We still have Xansta and Argo not arrived yet... Is there anyone else I have missed? Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: I like it Crunchy - might prove a temporary setback indeed. Btw - does everyone who's been involved have to appear for the ending? _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:00 am    Post subject: It would be a nice acknowledgement to everybody who contributed to the story to have their character appear at the finale in some form, I think. (edit to add) Lordy and I came up with a few BStheGreat ideas in Chat and he asked me to transcribe them here because he's too lazy to do it himself (alright, I've not got a boss looking over my shoulder right now and he has) BS's avatar should evoke some cool ideas with the weaponry he appears with (which can be ridiculously excessive) Maybe have him arrive 'in the middle of something' and be disgruntled at being pulled away from whatever he was doing Perhaps he could arrive in an embarrassing pose He could start ranting at Polokin for summoning him, then see all the other IFians, then spot D-Lotus, his focus of hatred... D-Lotus could also be his focus of fear, meaning that he sees the GE as Lotus, therefore he sees Double D-Lotus... Which one does he attack?? The other IFians are using BS attacks on Lotus to confuse and distract the GE but must do enough to protect Lotus from getting hurt... Just a few brainstorm ideas, you dont have to go with them, and they may spark off some more... but the BS situation does have a lot of potential for mayhem and humour, so lets go for it! Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: How about BS arrives mid-defecation? That would leave everyone rolling around laughing at him and he would be very upset. Then he would spot D-Lotus and blame him. More chaos! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: The scene is for the taking, do with it what you will! Back to top Author Guest Items Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: I am a little new here, and am wondering if anyone can joined, or only established members or some other criteria-fulfilling group. I was thinking about trying to get the hang of SG-ing in this story. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: While anyone can join in Alpha, this is very different to usual SGs, and is nearing the end. I'd recomend choosing a more traditional story. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Hey there AJ! Hangover has been a huge experiment, and is not a shining example of how a Storygame should be constructed or played. As Lordy says, the best thing for learning Storygaming is go and have a look at some of the Storygames around the Skiffyville, Jester Park and Fantasy Forest areas, and get involved with those. They are much better examples to learn from! But you are still welcome to take a look at Hangover and contribute some ideas. You could even write a practice post in this thread if you want to. That is what this thread is here for! If you want to read the whole story so far in its final edited form it is Here Welcome to IF! Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Ok, I've made a post on HangOver, containing BS's arrival, embarassment and subsequent discovery of twin Ds. Which one he shoots is of course up to the next author. I'd assume it'll bounce/go straight through the GE, and that D'll have to dive for cover, but whatever works for you. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Wonderful post, Lordy! Back to top Author Argonaut Mercenary Artist Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 344 Location: California Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Ok you wanted everyone there for the finale, well I just wrote myself in. Hopefully I've caused sufficient mayhem. The GE kinda has a physical from now so perhaps we can use that to our advantage. Some of the fighters here might be able to more to distract him while lordy's plan commences. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Ha. Nice post Arg, and nice bird too. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Wahay, its going again! Great post, Argo. I've started transferring the posts of this chapter over to the Tales of IF forum, and transferring the fables earned back to the authors as I go Edit to add: Okay, all posts have been transferred right up to date, and all fables transferred. Please check your inboxes, anyone who has posted to Chapter 27 - and if there are any discrepancies or I have missed anyone, please let me know! Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Alrighty, there is a hole in GEEM's fuel tank, nice work D, btw. lol. I didn't write the explosion because I am not sure there will be one. Fuel could just leak out slowly, or we could just have a nice, pretty BOOM! Enjoy! Muahahaha! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Just so nobody gets confused... The summoning chant and banishing chant use the exact same words. It's just that for a summoning chant, you intone them in the proper order and spelled correctly. For a banishing chant, the order is reversed, along with the spelling. For most people, this wouldn't be a problem either way, seeing as they wouldn't understand the backwards spelling or grammar and just intone it as they saw it. However, IM, Lilth, and Crady can only speak and read backwards spelling. They can understand the words, but to them, the order is reversed. They have to overcome their natural inclinations to speak the sentences normally, which will of course do nothing... Well, almost nothing. We could make it so that every time they spoke the chant they way they want to, a magical 'hiccup' occurs. What actually happens, I leave to you... _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Hey, IM can you remind me what is in the vial sitting on top of the machine? Also... there is a leakage of fuel, eh? We have one more character/player still to arrive. This is the long forgotton Xansta.... who just happens to be a 'burning woman' - literally a ball of flames. Oh dear.... Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Refined Stupidium. If let loose, it'll start transforming things into Stupidium...and we don't want the GEEM to get it's hands on that. If the vial is broken or opened, well... *Starts playing a tiny invisible violin for the city* _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Masterweaver wrote: The resulting explosion altered the mechanical characteristics of the world, forcing everybody to take 2d6 points of damage, before suddenly snapping back into a more realistic system of wounds. BS whistled low, impressed that his shot had had such an effect. D-Lotus ran around screaming, "MY HAIR'S ON FIRE!" whilst Chinaren ran around screaming, "I HADN'T PAYED INSURANCE ON THE CITY DEUS EX MECHINA YET!" IM and crew continued chanting, protected from the explosion by an ash-covered Lordy. Everyone else picked themselves up and stared hopfully. "I LIVE ON!!!!!!!!!!" cried the GE. It clung to the remnants of the exploded DEM like a bad referance to the third Spider-man movie. "Wait," said Masterweaver. "Agro, you were able to use the DEM, right?" "Yeah. Are you going to make an RP post?" "What?" "They're against the rules..." Sometimes I wish I had eyes to roll, thought MW, drawing a starnge remote out of his sleeve. "I will now use the PORTAL OF PLAGARISM!!!!" he announced in a loud voice. Everybosy ignored him. He pushed a button... This post has been heavily edited when transferred over, because of the RP qualities, and introduction of random elements. The text in red has been removed completely. Since it affects the plot itself, the edits have also been copied back to the Hangover thread in New Storygames. Idea master wrote: IM was frantically patting at his robes. He knew he was missing something, but all his normal instruments were in his robe. Just a note of caution - please dont introduce new items, powers, or magics so late in the game, without forewarning the rest of the writers, and weaving it into the plan here beforehand. As we are co-writing, we all need to be aware of what is available to the characters, so that we can write together. We were aware that Argo was going to introduce another machine, because he mentioned it earlier in this planning thread. We know about the vial of Stupidium, but we knew nothing about the Portal of Plagiarism, the Orb of Redundancy (although that was quite a good comic diversion) and we dont know about the instruments in IM's robes. It would probably be best to stick with what we have now from now on. Just a general comment - Try to make the story flow from one post to another... I have also had to edit IM's post on the Final Version thread, to lose the RP like qualities and make it read more fluently. Fables have still been transferred though. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Hah! Just caught up with the HOV main thread. I have to say I laughed I did. I laughed indeed. It made me... wait a minute... ~Throws orb of redundancy away~ Anyway, good work Crunchy and all! It's really shaping up well. I'll have to see if I can come up with something to add. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Idea master wrote: Refined Stupidium. If let loose, it'll start transforming things into Stupidium...and we don't want the GEEM to get it's hands on that. If the vial is broken or opened, well... *Starts playing a tiny invisible violin for the city* But what if the GE absorbs this somehow? Maybe we can trick it into thinking it is something else? _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: If we want to keep the Boom, maybe there is someway someone could have grabbed the bottle of stupidium before the big BOOM? That way we don't have a pentional stupiduim constraphy? Personally, I know of several ways I could do it, since the well chamber is filled with shadows (I think) but I think we really, really don't want stupiduium gas in the city because that would be really, really bad. Also I think we should take a quick break and toss some plans around about how to actually stop the GE. There seems to be alot of confusion about what we actually supposed to do other then create plently of chaos. I think a break would be beneficial so that we can get all ducks in a row before we go destroying or defeating anything. Savvy? *Dinranwen has been watching to many pirate movings lately, as you can tell.* Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Well, the guaranteed 'magic bullet' as it were to seal away the GEEM is the banishment chant. Seeing as that's already progressing nicely, you just have to keep the GEEM in the cave until the chant is finished. How you do that, I leave up to you. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Question - Why did IM take the vial of Stupidium from Lordy's lair? Back to top Author Idea master Magus Extraordinaire Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1787 Location: Sneaking Idearium into your beverages. Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: To dispose of it later when it was safe to do so. _________________ ...So I've been summoned back from beyond the veil. ...No plans yet. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Or - IC explanation coming up - "Because he was messing in the affairs of his betters, and the wizard is warrent to do. What should be nothing more than a minor annoyance - a mere fly distracted by bright lights - is swiftly turning into a misquiteo. He should watch what he continues to stick his nose into from now on, lest someone do IF a favour and cut it off." _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Don't be rude Lordy. Maybe if he somehow gets stupidum onto the Greater Evil (don't look so shocked now) it would react and destroy him for us? I know it's risky and we would all prolly end up dead, but hey, there's always that .000001 % chance that it would work and if we thought up a way to contain the effect while we are here in the discussion thread, our chances would be greatly increased! YAY ME! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: My question is should we allow the explosion of MW to happen? No offense, but it is sort of awkard and proposes a whole slew ideas that need to be solved. It was convient for the GE to have a body, but now that body is destroyed. Plus there was a bottle of stupidium on the Machine so unless someone managed to retrieve it before the explosion... Well, what are we supposed to do with MW's post? Back to top Author Polokin Citizen Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 178 Location: It seems that I'm not physically capable of visiting a forum... damnit! Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Wouldn't MW dead solve quite a bit? Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Unless the vial kinda rolls miraculously unscathed to somebody's feet in the next post. The magical forces that are keeping the stupidium from interacting with the glass that contains it, would probably keep the glass from shattering also. It would have to be a pretty strong container to hold stupidium. *shrug* Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: I could always pretend it's something valuble and trick the GE into absorbing it from me that way...or I'm a big dragon...I could step on the vial and crack it so that the stupidium leaks out...or smash it with my tail and shake the drops around the room... Or we could bundle MW around the vial and hurl him at the GE... As for what the stupidium does...it could make the GE unable to show us our greatest fears and unable to shift shape since it would lack the imagination to do so... _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Aren't you still bound? Or were you all freed? I thought it was only a couple of people - IM, D, MW, Polo, BS who weren't tied up still. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Lordy, try re-reading it. You must have a horrible memory... one wonders how you accomplish writing. _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: One would then be honour bound to point out that the last post was over a month ago, and that Rai being freed was a mere half sentance, and not crucial to the overall plot. And question why she was bound with breakable ropes, as opposed to ones she couldn't slip free of. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: I did wonder about that myself Lordy...it was damn decent of you to put simple restraints on me... Besides...admit it. When the time comes for ass-kicking, you're going to need me. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: I would put it down to everybody being bound in the same spell at the same time, a simple oversight, when there was so little time. Don't be too hard on yourself, Lordy! (edit to add:) It doesn't actually say that everybody is unbound. Might be wise to do so, though, fairly soon. Back to top Author NeverNeverGirl Honored Citizen Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 1216 Location: dreaming away of tomorrows to come Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: so is the story finished? i noticed it stopped a whil eago! Damn it all i was really enjoying it!! TO bad i wasnt around to get in on the action! So what was the general consensus? did it work or not? Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: The story hasn't finished, we're just waiting for someone to reply to MW's last post. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Welcome aboard NeverNever Girl! Although the story is almost finished, its good to see you jump in. Just a quick overview of how it works - We discuss the bare bones of the chapter in this thread, roughly what's going to happen, then when someone gets inspiration they write a short installment on the Hangover thread. Each writer builds a bit on to the chapter until all the planned events are written (and some unplanned ones as well!), and then we all come over here to work out the next bit. The tricky bit is to keep the story running as if it is one person writing it - keeping it running from one point of view. Back to top Author NeverNeverGirl Honored Citizen Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 1216 Location: dreaming away of tomorrows to come Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject: Hi Crunchy! i wasnt going to jump in but i was really wanting to see how the story was going to end and nobody had done anything for a while. Sorry to interfere this close to the final moments! sorry if i screwed it up too.. Cant wait to see what happens next.. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: No it's fine! And have woven it in with the next post, too! Okay, right, the stupidium vial has been smashed, and as per various suggestions, has been absorbed by the GE, and he has lost all his imagination. So that leaves the floor to Lordy and his 3 backwards speakers to clean up... Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Ha! And an entertaining post it was too CF! _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject: And I am true to my word - every author gets their avvie immortalised in the Hangover graphic... I know some people have changed theirs since this was first done, but NeverNever's has now been added! Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Well, if need be I can always go back to my old one...But welcome Ne-ne! _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Now I wish I had actually posted when I was going to. I was going to have Lordy try and convince the GE that he was about to imbue him with various 'uber' powers. Still, the GE is going to clean their clocks. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author NeverNeverGirl Honored Citizen Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 1216 Location: dreaming away of tomorrows to come Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: such positive vibes lordy lol. thanks crunchy - i am much indebted though i wasnt aware of your promise until you mentioned it.. now who's going tyo kill the GE? Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Okay, about killing the Greater Evil - I think there's a conversation earlier in this thread that perhaps killing is not the way, perhaps trapping it in the Soul Well again, or it disappearing, so that it can live to fight in another story! Anyway, here's an attempt at a summary. This is a really unweildly plot, but basically, this all centres around the Soul Well, a place where the Mayor casts out lost souls of IF (metaphor for deleting inactive IF accounts, actually). We have the Greater Evil, nasty bugger, who has been trapped for thousands of years under a fault line where the Soul Well now is. The City of IF was then conveniently built on this place, and Chinaren's recent use of the Soul Well awakened the GE's conciousness, enough for it to be able to crack open the Soul Well. Lordy (daemon with aspirations to rule anything and everything) took advantage of this, seeing that he could harness the power of the souls in the Soul Well, to achieve his goal of total domination, and made a pact with the Greater Evil, involving fully opening the Soul Well. To do this a foul spell would need to be performed, using 3 ingredients - the Blood of the Beginning, Flesh of the Present, and Bone of the End. D-Lotus, (private investigator) walked in on this plot, in Smee's basement, during the New Year's Eve celebrations, and attempted to kill the Greater Evil. Lordy wiped Lotus's memory, and Lotus woke up clinging to a ledge of a cliff at dawn on New Years day, with no memory of how he got there. (This is where the Hangover story begins) Meanwhile, within a highly complex plot involving maps, duplicate maps, fake maps etc. Lordy sent Kalanna Rai off to collect the 3 ingredients for the spell. In doing so, she kicked Dinranwen down a bottomless pit, where she temporarily met her demise. However, Dinranwen discovered the Realm of Dead IFians, a rather fun place inhabited by past legends of IF. The Realm was in great danger since it was situated directly under the Soul Well, which was slowly disintegrating, from the power of all the angry souls in there. D-Lotus, sent Crunchyfrog down to the Realm of Dead IFians to try and stabilise the Well at least temporarily. CF discovers that it is possible to communicate between IF and the Realm of Dead IFians via Solus.Serpen, as a kind of medium. Lordy called a Council meeting, and decided not to turn up as he has other business to attend to. The attendees, after comparing notes, realised that the Soul Well needs to be closed up, and Lordy must be stopped. This can be done using the same spell that Lordy plans to use to fully open the well, with the same 3 ingredients, provided that it is spoken in reverse. Conveniently, Lordy had earlier cast a Mirror curse on Idea Master, Lilith and Crady, in an attempt to try and stop them from foiling his plans. They are all talking backwards! Finally almost all the characters in the story converged on Lordy's lair, desparate to stop him from fully opening the well. He trapped them and transported them to the caverns containing Soul Well, where the Greater Evil then appeared. Lordy discovered that the Greater Evil had double crossed him, and realised for himself that the only way to save IF and the Realm of Dead IFians is to close the Soul Well. Lordy's plans for total domination will have to wait until another day! Currently every character except Xansta is now in the cavern containing the Soul Well. The Greater Evil has been weakened with a chance strike from a vial of Stupidium, and now Lordy has his chance to get Idea Master, Lilith and Crady to say the spell in their backwards tongue, with the 3 ingredients at the ready. And that's where we are now... So, let's sort out now, how it's going to end! Just as a reminder, our cast of thousands are: Argonaut - Looks like the avatar. Helped Idea Master, Lilith and Crady travel from IF to Lordy's lair in an impossibly designed airship. The airship crashed on landing, but Argo is yet to discover this. Argo's latest machine, the DEUS EX MACHINA has also just been blasted to smithereens. BStheGreat - Psychotic nutcase, with a grudge against D-Lotus. D had tortured BS for important information about the Soul Well, and now BS is out for revenge. Chinaren - Miserly Mayor. Looks like the avatar. His recent use of the Soul Well to cast out the lost Souls of IF helped the chain reaction that lead to the release of the Greater Evil. Christalnightshade (generally known as Crady) - Kooky gothic fairie. Currently struck by the Mirror Curse, causing her to speak backwards and not understand a word anyone else says. Crunchyfrog - Green frog-like creature, and hapless newbie. Although somewhat cowardly, he did travel to the Realm of Dead IFians and successfully delayed the complete break up of the Soul Well to give the rest of the team time to get their act together! Dinranwen - Hooded and cloaked shadow, and moderator of Jester Park. Can perform some magic through the use of shadow. Through an unfortunate accident Dinranwen discovered the Realm of Dead IFians, its inhabitants including such legends from times gone by as Reiso, RavenWing, Muaddib, Shady Stoat and others. D-Lotus - Private Investigator. For the first part of the story, D was the central character, suffering from amnesia, and trying to fathom out what happened to the City on New Year's Eve. Idea Master - Mage, and moderator of the Games Forum. Useful knowledge of spells and magic, although he does rely a lot on his spell book. Currently under the Mirror Curse, causing him to talk backwards and not understand a word anyone else says. Kalanna Rai - Large red Dragon, and moderator of Jester Park. Possesses formidable magical abilities, and physical strength. Rai assisted Lordy by collecting the 3 vital ingredients for the spell needed to completely open up the Soul Well. JezSharp - Elf in charge of the Technical Institute and Tourist Information. Jez has spent much of the time creating a labyrinth of tunnels under the city. He found a book with vital information in it, that help lead our intrepid heroes to Lordy's lair. Lebrenth - Moderator of Skiffivile, and wearer of the Cloak of Forboding, which is supposed to make him look cool and scary. Lebby succumbed to the mists of the mysterious Dream Chamber, and during Jezsharp's attempts to revive him with some interesting concoctions, unexpectedly met with D-Lotus on an astral plane, which helped D regain his memory. Lilith - Fairie type character, looks like the avatar. Currently under the Mirror Curse, causing her to speak backwards and not understand a word anyone else says. Lordofthenight - Daemon, who's aspiration is to dominate IF and everything in it. He made a pact with the Greater Evil, in which he had hoped he would finally achieve his plan. Unfortunately for Lordy, the Greater Evil had other ideas. Masterweaver - Resident spammer. Looks like a hooded leather cloak with no body in it. Scary, for all the wrong reasons. NeverNeverGirl - Newbie, and an employee from IF Insurance. In her spare time she is an amunitions, arms, and assasination expert, and dabbles in magical mutations. Polokin - Respectable IFian, assisting BStheGreat in his quest of revenge over D-Lotus. Luckily for Lotus, Polokin recently had a change of heart. Sasuke - Half human, half dragon, Sasuke has spent most of his life living in the very cavern that holds the pool at the mouth of the Soul Well. He survived for six years eating nothing but some rather interesting mushrooms. Smudger - A rather loveable hunchback, and moderator of the Linear forum. Smudger assisted Dinranwen in defending the Realm of Dead IFians from some nasty looking wraiths and ghasts. Solus.Serpen - Sister of JezSharp. She is being used as a medium for contact between the Citizens of IF and the otherworldly Realm of Dead IFians. Xansta - Human fireball. Last seen in the mists in the heart of the City, Xansta is the only IFian character missing from the final scene. Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Remind me - when did Lebby get there? _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author NeverNeverGirl Honored Citizen Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 1216 Location: dreaming away of tomorrows to come Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: How come if ARgo built the Deus Ex Machina (remember his anitclimactic entrance...) it is later chinaren that shouts he hasnt yet paid the insurance on the city's deus ex machina? sorry i am a bit sticky with continuity and i cant find Lebby's entrance either... _________________ ~ ~ Back to top Author Chinaren Hallowed IFian Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8881 Location: https://www.NeilHartleyBooks.com Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Quote: Chinaren - Miserly Mayor. Looks like the avatar. His recent use of the Soul Well to cast out the lost Souls of IF helped the chain reaction that lead to the release of the Greater Evil. Slight typo there CF. Should read: Generous philanthropist. _________________ Neil Hartley Books. My Amazon page. Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:46 am    Post subject: yer, riiiiiiiiight, NeverNeverGirl wrote: How come if ARgo built the Deus Ex Machina (remember his anitclimactic entrance...) it is later chinaren that shouts he hasnt yet paid the insurance on the city's deus ex machina? *applies some quick drying plot hole filler* Hmmm, maybe Argo was contracted by Cren to build them for the city... Quote: sorry i am a bit sticky with continuity and i cant find Lebby's entrance either... OK, Lebby's character has one of the weirdest Hangover experiences, he spent about 80% of it lying around in various states of unconsciousness. He starts off just after the episode with the forest fire, by answering an emergency call on his Moderators ring, but instead of teleporting to the Council offices, he inexplicably arrived in the Dream Chamber, where he succumbed to the narcotic mists, and fell into a deep sleep. Rai rescued him and took him to the ever resourceful JezSharp, Tourist Information elf. Jez and Lordy then proceeded to abuse...er, sorry, attempt to revive Lebby, with some very interesting and repulsive potions. They only succeeded in getting him to a semi-conscious state, during which he met subconciously on an astral plane with D-Lotus, assisting Lotus in getting his memory back. Rai transported him from the TI back to Jester Park, leaving him on the very spot where the Council Meeting was about to be held, with a Crypt Spider on his neck. Dinranwen removed the spider eventually, and Lebrenth sprang into action (quite literally) just before the Council Meeting. After the meeting he teamed up with D-Lotus, Polokin, Solus and Jez, and went to Chinaren's mansion, and then on to Lordy's lair. He, along with the other IFians in his group, witnessed Argo's airship suffer a spectacular crash, with Idea Master, Crady and Lilith aboard. Lebby's first post is on page 2 of the working Hangover thread, and is easy to spot as he always writes in bright green text. Hope this helps! Okay - on to the situation in hand....Lordy has now produced the 3 ingredients for the spell to close the well. Polokin has realised they need to keep the GE distracted whilst Lordy, Idea Master, Lilith and Crady get on with it. And still, where is Xansta? Back to top Author Kalanna Rai Assassin for Hire Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 3102 Location: The Frozen North Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Quote: Quote: sorry i am a bit sticky with continuity and i cant find Lebby's entrance either... OK, Lebby's character has one of the weirdest Hangover experiences, he spent about 80% of it lying around in various states of unconsciousness. That's not weird...he just drunk more than the rest of us... _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..." "Music makes you braver." Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Okay.... does anyone else think that we really should get this moving again? *raises both hands* Do I need to take a longer vacation? Because when I was gone a week, it seemed y'alls made wonderful progress... and when I am here.. nothing.... HELLO?! IS ANYONE ELSE COMMITTED TO FINISHING THIS OR NOT?! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Yeah, this should really get done now, especially as there are two new IF tales running now. I'll be on to it later today. Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Hey all! Hope you like the post. I wasn't trying to forget anyone on purpose.. it's just that I couldn't remember exactly everyone who was involved at the moment! So don't take it personal! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author dinranwen Guest Items Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Blast. I had a post. But it seems me and Lily were posting at the exact same time, but her's got in first. So I took mine out as it was very out of place. Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: *cackles gleefully* muahaha! I am a faster typer.. yay!... Except I was working on that post for a long, long time... it just wouldn't... WORK right. and then it just sort of twisted and wrote itself.. so blame it .. not me! _________________ © 2007-2019 Lilith Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Nice ending! Not sure about the 'next morning' paragraph, it is RP, and is only from the point of view of IM - I shall write an epilogue involving everyone, that befits the end of such a magnificent adventure. Well done everyone! Back to top Author NeverNeverGirl Honored Citizen Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 1216 Location: dreaming away of tomorrows to come Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: NO! there MUST be a second volume! there must! puhlease.... book 2 yes? at least promote me from hapless insurance salesperson puhlease... _________________ ~ ~ Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: I can't say I haven't been thinking about it... We need to let things calm down a bit before we start a new one though. There are two IF tales currently in progress, and a Hangover style tale takes a lot of energy and time for everyone concerned... The site I came from always allowed a 3 month breather between ending one co-writing project and starting another, and for very good reasons! So, perhaps after the summer, eh? Back to top Author NeverNeverGirl Honored Citizen Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 1216 Location: dreaming away of tomorrows to come Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: oh okay..you promise? _________________ ~ ~ Back to top Author LordoftheNight Revered IFian Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 5276 Location: Hell Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: What is it about me and going away? I don't go on IF for two days, come back, and it's finished already. Bugger. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom. Ave Dominus Nox A Fronte Praecipitium a Tergo Lupi Blood Bowl Scraping the Barrel A Tale of Four Swords Passion Back to top Author Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 3998 Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: All posts have been transferred over, and fables credited accordingly. Congratulations everyone who took part. I hope you go over and have a look at the final version, you can get to it by the link in my sig, which I'll keep up for another week or so. Thank you again, for making this work! Back to top Author Lilith Honored Citizen Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1597 Location: Happily curled up in a Daemon's lap Items Legends Fables Strata-gems Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: lordofthenight wrote: What is it about me and going away? I don't go on IF for two days, come back, and it's finished already. Bugger. Aww.. poor Lordy. *snickers* Now you know how I felt when I left for a week and this thing took off again! But that aside... WE DID IT! WE FINISHED IT! WHOOT! AND WONDERFUL WORK HOLDING IT TOGETHER AND EDITING OUR POSTS TOGETHER CRUNCHYFROG! THREE CHEERS FOR CRUNCHY! HIPP HIPP HORRAY! HIPP HIPP HORRAY! 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