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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: ages? POLL NOW UP for IF population demographic... |
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okay wow! i guess i just assumed that some of you ppl were older than you actually are... im not sure if this is somewhere else but i was curious to know your ages..
Im a 25 yo female... _________________ ~ ~
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Come on 17-19 year olds, we must outnumber them all! And I agree with Lordy as always
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Gahh, where are Zephy and Argo when you need them? I'm sure they must be in the realms of old git-dom!
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Heh, maybe we should do this regularly then!
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YAY - old gits are ahead!!!
WE HAVE THE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!! TIme to destroy all Youngen's.....
*ahem* i mean we um... *ahem*
lovely day today....
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Not really. 13-19 Beats 25+
sadly... the 'youngens' will become 'olduns' eventually... _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous
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We should probably favor individual posts over a poll. That way, we can get some background information on City Council members and ordinary Citizens for the Wiki. Remember, we have the Gender thread also.
Some people would probably not like this, and I think that User Pages on the Wiki should be restricted according to the wishes of the Citizen. Still, a demographic might be nice for a General IF Information page, but it would have to be updated regularly to be of any use.
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D-Lotus wrote: | Not really. 13-19 Beats 25+ |
Yes, I thought that when I was between 13 and 19 also... (unless you were talking about the combined total of course! )
Quote: | sadly... the 'youngens' will become 'olduns' eventually... |
Not sadly at all! *very sprightly for age and proud of it*
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Reiso wrote: | I remember Mother Goose always claiming to be older than dirt, but I have the feeling she is not quite so old as she makes out. |
It's true! When I was little, everything was clean!
I'll vote, but I really should get several votes in the last category. Now if we were talking mental age,,,,, about five?
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what alos has to be conisdered ( and frankly i've noticed this ) the sub 18's are going to be on here more cause the 18+'s have to a little thing called work so naturally there are going to be more youngsters taht old fogies (i'm 22 so i'm a middle fogie ) _________________ Check out the City of IF Facebook page here
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My mum would've loved to have lived when you were a child then, MG. _________________
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geez am i the only 20 to 25er in here??!!! _________________ Check out the City of IF Facebook page here
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No, just the only one who'd voted Kang. Decided to throw my vote in because I'm amazed that everyone thinks I'm older than I am. _________________ "It's not just about living forever...the trick is living with yourself forever..."
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well Rai that can be because of one thing your writing skills and possibly your maturity precece you that can really throw everyone off ( plus it lets you lie about your age if you really wanted too muahh) _________________ Check out the City of IF Facebook page here
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You're 13 now, Whitey? Hm...interesting. Does that mean you're in year eight or year nine now?
(I thought you were one year younger than me)
Well I voted to level it up to five all on...well whatever those catagories were.
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I'm in year 9, but since I'm a late July birth I'm one of the youngest. _________________
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OLD FARTS STILL AHEAD!!! YAYYAYYYY
we have crept through the shadows and conquered IF ... mwhahahahahahhaaaa _________________ ~ ~
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The poll... appears to have closed. Well, thank you everyone for participating in the very first, IF-wide, DeP (Demographic Poll)! We'll probably host more of these soon, but until then stick around!
I don't think this one is quite done yet... At the very least, let's have a word from our sponsor, the City Councillor responsible for HEM... NeverNeverGirl! *sporadic applause* NeverNeverGirl, please take the stand. *steps off the podium and stands to one side, watching briefly. When the address is completed... it fades* _________________ Thrash, dash and crash alike.
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Er, I have just checked and the poll is very still much open...
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Also, it's not the first. There have been at least two topics of the same kind before, at least one of which also contained a poll. I say 'at least' because that was a while back and I have no idea what has or hasn't happened in the intervening time. _________________
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Because it is bitter
And because it is my heart." -- Stephen Crane
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agreed this poll is far from closed there are over 200+ on IF and only 28 decicde to vote? that means not everyone has seen the poll or there is a lot of dead weight laying around _________________ Check out the City of IF Facebook page here
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Probably both.
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I am 15 and pretty close to 16.
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There has always ben a lot of dead weight. When I joined the amount of people who had never posted was in the thousands. Then came the Great Exorcism, and the amount of members (as well as the amount of idearium) went down, with all those who never posted banished. People accumelate, and you also have all the Ifians who drop off the radar. _________________
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i can understand some of them dropping of the radar but there are a few that have dropped and fallen off the radar for good _________________ Check out the City of IF Facebook page here
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There you go, my vote put the 25+ back in front. I could nearly give Mother Goose a run for her money on that older than dirt title.
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Thought I would just take a snapshot here:
Quote: | age range (in RL years)
12 and under
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13 - 16
32% [ 10 ]
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19% [ 6 ]
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At some stage it might be a good idea to close this poll and wait a few months, and then start it all over again. The demographic will shift over time - people obviously get older, but new people join, and it's interesting to see the age of the people who are joining and staying.
Thoughts, anybody?
Poll is still open.
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I hear you there CF!
I was 16 when i voted, and my birthday was 23th of October.
So, count one off 14- 16 and add to 17-19...
Sorry folks, but the oldies are still running... _________________ Slit and Slide
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Well, yes - they would be. If the poll options were every five, or every ten (ect) years, then it'd be a different trend together. But their choice stretches a lot further than any of the others. _________________ Punishment leads to Fear. Fear leads to Obedience. Obedience leads to Freedom. Therefore, Punishment leads to Freedom.
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Just 2 months into my 26th year, so I'm an oldie _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd!
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i have closed the poll - please do not delete this thread as it is needed for referencing regarding other matters.
Cheers - Ne
oh yeah and guess who won? _________________ ~ ~
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How can we guess if the results aer sitting right there?
OK, I'm saying... 25+ won, with 12 votes. _________________
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Ok...... if you must know, am 777, but i have been 777 for 10 years, and i have been waiting while being 777 to wait 10 years to stay 777 for 23 years and i have waited 777 years to be 888 which i only have waited 12 years of..... you got all that right. _________________ Check out some of the following:
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I'm 18! Woot! I can have sex, smoke, and vote, but I can't drink alcohol... _________________ Myths: The Ancients' Soap-Operas ;D
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I can't vote, damn.
I appear to be the only active 12 year old here in IF. I know sasuke (Ifian, not the anime one) is 11 but he's inactive so he doesn't count.
Haha, from my perspective, all of you are old farts. _________________ Cherish all your memories, even the bad ones, for they are what makes you who you are.
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Therefore, the majority of the IF population is under 25, although there is a large minority as well. _________________ Chapter 5: The Rendezvous
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that there is, but you cant be sure that everyone is truthful about there age, as you can see a bit earlier in this post I saw that several people said they were 12, but in the poll, there is no one who says they are 12. _________________ Check out some of the following:
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D-Lotus wrote: | Therefore, the majority of the IF population is under 25, although there is a large minority as well. |
hehe, if you move the benchmark to 20, the vote is almost half and half!
This poll is out of date as some of us have moved from one category to the next even since this thread was first started...
Might be interesting to re-poll again in a couple of months
You'll be an old fart before you know it D. *shakes walking stick menacingly at young whippersnappers and falls over*
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Hi everyone, I'm a bit older - but that's all I'm saying!
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Wow, this post has been around for a while, maybe you should try re-polling it NeNe. _________________ Check out some of the following:
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Yeah. Now would be a good time, as we have a whole lot more newbies. _________________
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I just pruned the topic (deleted the first two pages), so sorry if your post has dissapeared. I also updated the poll though so have fun voting again!
~Solus _________________ Ogden the Octopus has hijacked my avatar image
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Yay! Once again, we 13-16 year olds are on top! _________________
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I'm about 7:00.(am) _________________ I'm back... hooray! ...yes, I left, way to notice...
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Wow. The average age here seems to be a lot younger than I was actually expecting.
Obviously, i need a perm with little blue rods and a walker.
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Sometimes I think that's part of the problem, I'll be 49 at the end of May almost in the 50+ range that's double the 25+ range so not all that much in common with the major 13-16 range that has the most votes. _________________ Pressure makes Diamonds over Time
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scissorkitty Respected Citizen
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Argon- I'm not quite pulling those numbers, but exactly. I was totally unprepared for the average age of this place. I mean, when I was 12ish, ... I don't think I had half the grammar skills or ability to SPEAK, then again write, in the styles I see all over If. It's really amazing. And it is indeed a contrast of different lifestyles and age groups coming together. I never realised what an integral part of the community dynamic it probably is.
(and how out of date some of my pop culture references might be. woops! Maybe that's why I often seem the only one to get my jokes!)
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Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian
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Some of us older members are a little more shy in revealing our age, of course. I'm quite happy to check the 25+ box but if that was divided into 26-35, 36-50, 50+ I might hover over the vote button and decide to move on.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Just added my vote to the 25+ category although it should probably read 25+++...
I'm feeling really old here in the city and also am very impressed by the talent of some of you young'uns...you should be prod of yourselves
Now if one of you could just help me across the street and back to the Ifian Senior Complex for my dailty Canasta game...
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25+ and winning _________________ The path of my life is strewn with cowpats from the Devil's own Satanic Herd!
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scissorkitty Respected Citizen
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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MWAA HAA HAAA!
All us older Ifians are suddenly creeping from our recliners to steal back the Poll!
of course, the young ones could steal it back after 7pm, when Matlock is on.
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Crunchyfrog Honorable IFian
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Mwahaa, you won't be saying that in 10 yrs time! Nyahahaaaa!
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Come on, kids! We can run rings round those old farts! _________________
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scissorkitty Respected Citizen
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Hmm.. 11 or so in the Over Legal Age categories, and 12 below. I had to count the mid aged group (17-19yos) in the younger category, not being able to see who is specifically over 18 or not.
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scissorkitty wrote: | Hmm.. 11 or so in the Over Legal Age categories, and 12 below. I had to count the mid aged group (17-19yos) in the younger category, not being able to see who is specifically over 18 or not. |
Legal age for what Skitty? _________________ Neil Hartley Books.
My Amazon page.
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Wow. Average age really suprised me.
Maybe it's just cuz all of us here are so mat- HAAAAAAAAAAA!
Sorry. I have a problem writing obviously untrue statements with a straight face.
I think a better way of saying this would be that the intelligence of the people here is above average. _________________ When the dead walk, the living run.
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And my vote brings the 13-16 back up to a tie with the 25+. _________________ I was hated my entire life, and things only got worse when my sister told me she hated me, too. I walked away, and was rescued by three travelers. That night, we were hunted and separated, but we found each other in the end. I met my sister again in a town quite similar to our own. She apologized with such regret that I found the heart to forgive her. We're now together, but things will never be the same.
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YAY FOR 13-!6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________ When the dead walk, the living run.
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Uh.. C-ren... now that we know there's an awful lot of underagers... you're not going to make me say something we'll all have to put a Disclaimer up for, are you?
tsk tsk tsk.
What would Mr. Rogers say? (And if you make a "Rogering" joke.. dude.... hee hee)
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Underaged? Just what are you on about? This site has no age limit; I joined age 12 or something. _________________ Stuff here
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well, I'm 16.... so.... HA! _________________ Fear is only overanxiety over the future
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In a week, my vote will become invalid as I will be moving up from one section to the other... so... discount me from this one until the next one is run.
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Score for the 13-16! Woooo hooo!
Incidently, I think Sasuke is the only one under 13 here. _________________ Cherish all your memories, even the bad ones, for they are what makes you who you are.
Doors to the truth, an SG where a boy is propelled into worlds he is unfamiliar with. He crosses many worlds, and sees many things that force him to throw away his innocence, once, and for all. Fourth Chapter, out for viewing!
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If this was run when I joined (about 2 years ago), I would have been in the first category. _________________
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Can't let those youngsters run away with this, can we? Evening it up again. (I should rate more than one "25+"!)
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wow I'm one of the few 12 year olds
P.S You know we're the best
P.S.S I got the first post on page three hooray again _________________ "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
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I'm 18 turned 18 in july thank you. I'm female.
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hehehe the 13-16 yr olds are now tied with the 25+ers _________________ And the sun will set for you
The sun will set for you
And the shadow of the day
Will embrace the world in grey
And the sun will set for you ~shadow of the day, linkin park
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I'm not crazy*, my reality is just different from yours.
*most of the time
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Don't be so sure that the poll is closed yet. I could still vote.
Unfortunately, my age group, the 17-19 year old group, is not tied for first.... _________________ A writer doesn't solve problems. He allows them to emerge.
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I am 23, 24 next month!~ _________________
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DeadManWalking Duke of the Mostly Dead
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Wow. That was quite a bump. Also, I think I've changed in age category, and a lot of the people who voted are no longer around. Maybe we should make a new thread with a new poll? _________________ When the dead walk, the living run.
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lol, me neither, but we have had a serious refresh of regular members since then, so perhaps a new poll wouldn't hurt!
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Give it another couple of months. I don't want to be still in the same category I was last time. _________________
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Age range (in RL years) ? |
12 and under |
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